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Old 08-12-2007   #16
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

you obviously didnt get out much just after the Stilo was launched, I remember seeing them broken down everywhere IMO one of Fiats worst efforts. Interestingly an AA man once told me that the Mk1 and 2 Puntos were pretty good, this of course was when he was attending a neighbours broken Punto!!!

Thing is, there are thousands of VW/Audis on the roads of the UK so youre very likely to see them broken. To be fair they are fairly reliable cars, I seem to always see Mk3 Fiestas and various Vauxhalls broken down.

In all honesty, Fiat are a pretty reliable car to own, providing you keep up with maintainance and fix the little problems before they get you. Its my 11th year of owning them and have never been stranded in a Fiat, they always get you home
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

I saw an A3 broken down yesterday on the motorway with steam pouring from its engine bay , felt sorry for the owner as it was 1 in the morning

And there was a fiesta the other day when i was on the motorway
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

Make sure you have a large pinch of salt at hand for tonight at 9.
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

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Make sure you have a large pinch of salt at hand for tonight at 9.
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I can see the summary chat at the end will be along the lines of "why pay a premium for the 500 to get a car with the dynamics of a Panda, but minus two doors", which would be to miss the point surely. What's I find irritating is that Top Gear is - rightly or wrongly - influential and for a car as yet unavailable in the UK I just hope they don't sink the 500's chances before people have the opportunity to make-up their own minds.
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

If I needed to go on a journey in any car that i knew WOULDNT breakdown, it would be my mums Mk1 punto.

It's wrecked, its ruined, handles like ****. Consumes petrol like a 2.0, but it just keeps going.
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

Schwenck, you've obviouisly got hold of the script. As i've said before Hammond likes the car so I hope he's not carried away by the negative vibe May is likely to create.
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

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As i've said before Hammond likes the car so I hope he's not carried away by the negative vibe May is likely to create.
I reckon the negative vibe will be more from Clarkson; James May does at least 'get' small cars.
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The problem is with May as a Panda owner he is the most likely one to advance the argument you proported earlier.
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

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The problem is with May as a Panda owner he is the most likely one to advance the argument you proported earlier.
I would hope he would be he'll be more subjective than that; it would be childish - not mention unprofessional - to dismiss the 500 just because he has a Panda.

His column in The Telegraph doesn't really seem to express dislike beyond the fact it came with a Multijet under the bonnet (and please, let's not get into that argument ). I just hope in Budapest he got the 1.2 8v he craved so he could be subjective about the rest of the car.

In the end, he may well say he prefers his Panda, but we have to accept that might just be an honest opinion. One manís meat is another manís poison, isn't it?

Or it might just be the usual flippant Top Gear rubbish, with FIAT's great hope dismissed with some 'witty banter'.
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

Pretty good review overall and Clarkson obviously likes it. Evidently there weren't many Panda fans in the studio audience
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

Rubbish road test, although the car looks great, I just can't wait to get mine now.

Although having seen one (or six in fact) in the flesh, it looks better in the flesh trust me.
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

usual high quality review about 2 blokes on bikes..........oh and a few words on the car of the year
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

Yeh it looked great, better than in the press pics I say! Lets hope it wins something in 2 weeks time at Top Gear's Awards Show!
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

I wouldn't hold my breath I would imagine the Top Gear awards will contain the usual frivolous rubbish centering on the luxury and supercar market.

Will someone define the useless phrase 'Fun to drive' for me. Since most car drivers spend there time on straight roads or in traffic fun to drive for me would refer to my driving environment. Not how fast I could accelerate or go round corners like these pathetic motoring jounalists.
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Re: Top Gear review the 500 - Sun 9th Dec

Aw c'mon, dont say you now want Top Gear to review a car technically, its never been what the show is about. It was a bit of fun with the 500.

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