fiat500 said:

.....in a strange twist of timing, I have a toolkit for sale on eBay at the moment and I keep meaning to offload sell a few other surplus items which I must get round to in the near future.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-...102156?hash=item342205c24c:g:Y5UAAOSwsFJeRc8G

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Ooh and what’s missing?

Vitesse said:

Ooh and what’s missing?

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Pliers?

Sothebys got in touch so I'm witholding one particular item and it will be sold separately. Either that or I'm melting it down and just selling it as bullion.

further to the conundrum of where the tookbox goes, where does it go in other Fiat models that were equipped with the same kit? My 128 is sadly missing it's tool box but I'm not sure where it's meant to go anyway. Similarly the X19 I was just looking at on an online auction site showed the toolbox separately (missing Ferrari box spanner of course) and also showed where the jack goes but not where the toolbox is supposed to fit secured.

**edit** just noticed the lower strap around the jack so maybe it goes there?

David Britton said:

The Fiat 500 Shop Manual was reprinted in 1970 and is a mine of information for anyone who knows what they're looking for!!
My jack strap ? was fairly short and would not hold jack and tool kit.
I love the fact that as the car or parts changed there seems to be no record and information was passed by word of mouth. It becomes an enigma wrapped in a mystery hidden in a conundrum!
So many great replies to what I thought was a simple question

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Hi Dave,

The length of the jack/toolkit rubber straps varied between the various Fiat models, so you might find something suitable from a different Fiat model.

Re:- No record of when parts changed?
If you have access to a genuine Fiat Catalogo Parti Di Ricambio (that's a Spare Parts Catalog ) and know how to decipher it, you can find when parts were altered, usually by up to/from the no. for spare parts (found on the chassis plate) or engine number, which parts are appropriate/not appropriate for your version of the model (e.g. LHD, RHD, market for which destined), and lots of other useful info.

Just bear in mind that the engine or other major assemblies may have been changed during the car's life, so don't blindly order parts based on the numbers on the chassis plate without first verifying that they're still applicable. Of course, nowadays you might only have one choice for a particular part, so will have to hope it'll fit and work ok.

Al.

fiat500 said:

Pliers?

Sothebys got in touch so I'm witholding one particular item and it will be sold separately. Either that or I'm melting it down and just selling it as bullion.

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Dear Peter,

Would you be so kind as to post a picture of this elusive pliers, preferably alongside a ruler.

This is so that I can copy locate the correct item.

Regards,

Al. :devil:

F123C said:

Dear Peter,

Would you be so kind as to post a picture of this elusive pliers, preferably alongside a ruler.

This is so that I can copy locate the correct item.

Regards,

Al. :devil:

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....my pleasure...

F123C said:

elusive pliers

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.... they're obviously off a commercial Fiat...I did have some which were included in the purchase of a Fiat 500 a long time ago; they were rubbish.

Whilst we are talking of tools for the 500 (and yes, I do have a complete 500 tool kit in the plastic box, in very good condition, but sans the pliers) does anybody have a spare 500/600/850 tappet adjusting tool? This is the tool that looks like a screwdriver but instead of a blade, it has a 'female' slot in the end which fits over the top of the tappet. I am looking for one of these tools

I have not a toolbox too. I need to change the headlamp chrome ring, which size wrench should i buy ? Also i'm open to tool suggestion for my box.

the hobbler said:

Whilst we are talking of tools for the 500 (and yes, I do have a complete 500 tool kit in the plastic box, in very good condition, but sans the pliers) does anybody have a spare 500/600/850 tappet adjusting tool? This is the tool that looks like a screwdriver but instead of a blade, it has a 'female' slot in the end which fits over the top of the tappet. I am looking for one of these tools

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If a second one of these appears, I would be interested as well!

thanks

RDS

the hobbler said:

does anybody have a spare 500/600/850 tappet adjusting tool? This is the tool that looks like a screwdriver but instead of a blade, it has a 'female' slot in the end which fits over the top of the tappet. I am looking for one of these tools

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I had a tool that fits that tappet screw but could not find it one day. After a little think I took a spare suitable 1/4" drive socket and clamped it around the top of a spare tappet screw in the vice. It works fine and now lives as an extra in my socket set

For those missing items or wanting to build a whole tool kit, parts here.

https://www.ricambio.co.uk/69-fiat/...er,punch,spanner,brace,wheel,toolbox,fiat,500

FD Ricambi Fiat of Venlo, Netherlands has exactly what you want!
Valve adjustment tool €18.60

Could I just also mention that you would be better off buying some of those chocolate tool spanner’s you get at Xmas if you’re considering using the new repro spanners for anything other than display pieces? They are poorly cast, soft, and do not fit any actual nut or bolt with any degree of accuracy.
Your best bet is to look for the original real ones in autojumbles. Despite their rough appearance they do actually work exceptionally well - and even come well patina’ed..... Not too difficult to find, either!
Derek

Alfadeke21 said:

Your best bet is to look for the original real ones in autojumbles. Despite their rough appearance they do actually work exceptionally well - and even come well patina’ed..... Not too difficult to find, either!
Derek

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The originals have "FIAT" cast into the handle and are the best ones to look out for. Early kits had screwdrivers with wooden handles and a double ended blade, later handles were plastic. As the kits were supplied with a range of cars only the 500 one had a wheel brace for the smaller 17mm a/f wheel bolts.

Toshi 975 said:

......a double ended blade, later handles were plastic.

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Ah, the notorious plastic handle that was always split causing the blade to cut into the palm of your hand as soon as you applied pressure to loosen/tighten a screw :bang:

fiat500 said:

....my pleasure...

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https://www.fiatforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=206636&stc=1&d=1582413902

Are you sure this pliers is for a 500, looks to me like it's for a 126 (aka, Bambino ).

Al.

Here's a small adjustable wrench that might? be for 500/126 also.

Al.

Here's a Fiat tool for use in kitchens! It seems to be quite rare, I've only seen this one, never heard of another, might even be a one-off....
Note the familiar wooden handle that was used.

Or maybe it was part of the 'toolkit' supplied with a Fiat Amigo camper van?

Al.

Prototypi Tool kit from Factory book

Hi everyone, just reading up on the thread and a complete newbie here wanting to check my spark plugs. I luckily have the original tool kit with the spark plug spanner in but am missing the punch which I assume accompanies it for operation? I could probably just use a modern punch/handle though. The box spanner is also missing, I believe that this is for the carburetor?

In general, I guess the trick to removing and checking plugs is to not loose them as removing right...as I hear this can often happen. Any tips welcome, this is definitely my first time trying this (ever) on a car!

Are there ever any vids on here perhaps?
pginnie