General Driving my new 500 back from Italy

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General Driving my new 500 back from Italy

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So, I am visiting my dad in Italy and whilst here I thought it might be a great idea for me to buy an old Fiat 500 and drive it back via the south of France to the UK. 900 plus miles at 45mph...gulp!

Meet Sofia. Named after the seller's daughter. Richard (a mate) has a 500 and knows them well. He told me a few things to look out for. Mainly don't be blinded by a shiny one and absolutely avoid one that looks like it was crashed.

Sofia looks pretty shiny and I think there's some evidence of a crash repair up front on the panel behind the battery. So it's good job I spoke to an expert before I bought the car. Also it's Ivory, so basically beige. But to me it looks good. So I keep telling myself. It's been repainted in the orginal dcolour at some point and the job looks reasonable if not perfect. Can't find much evidence of filler so that is reassuring.


The gearbox is a bit rough, worse than the others I tried. Double declutch with a blip of throttle is the only way to stop crunching into second and third and even then it still clunks quite unhappily. Good project for my mate Richard when I get back.

More info will of course follow in due course. Couple of pics for now attached.


Any advice on pre journey checks would be appreciated. I have some basic tools here and have bought spare points and plugs. Also want to do an oil change which im sure will be easy (simple car and I've done lots on other cars) but is there anyhting online that shows the procedure? are there tricks to be aware of? or just warm it up, pull sump plug and then refill? Is the oil level checked warm or cold? I looked at the guides available here but could find nothing on an actual engine oil change...




 
I tried exactly what you are doing
One of us must manage it!
Oil change, set points, set tappets and prey.......and organise recovery.....
 
If you have the time and the ability to jack it up - personally I'd check all the wheel bearings for wear, and have a spare set for front & rear. Check the brake pads in all drums for wear. Change the brake fluid, and bleed the brakes.

You probably know already, but you'll also need to get some temporary export plates and export form completed.

Have fun, it should be a good blast.

cheers, Steve
 
I sorted a recovery backup plan
The car is 50 years old and any failure will stop you
Best to have options.......
 
I tried exactly what you are doing
One of us must manage it!
Oil change, set points, set tappets and prey.......and organise recovery.....

Done aside from tappets..

Good luck. I would also buy at least one spare condensor as well. When you've drained the oil I would take the oil slinger (filter) off and clean it. I have attached a link to my manual for a 126. Same procedure for changing oil, setting points etc
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-ryUAMymms9UXlzdHFUVVJaLTQ/view?usp=drivesdk
Damian

Thanks Damian!! I think cleaning the filter might be a bit more cumbersome on the 500? read a thread where it seems to involve a bit more work:

" To clean the filter: * support the engine on a plank of wood under exhaust/sump/fan casing, propped up with a jack * remove the engine compartment lid (don't forget to disconnect the license plate light) *undo the engine mount at the back of the car and remove the rear cross-member - you can now get to the oil filter properly *"

If you have the time and the ability to jack it up - personally I'd check all the wheel bearings for wear, and have a spare set for front & rear. Check the brake pads in all drums for wear. Change the brake fluid, and bleed the brakes.

You probably know already, but you'll also need to get some temporary export plates and export form completed.

Have fun, it should be a good blast.

cheers, Steve

Cheers Steve.. but the car is now in my dads name and that is how im driving it back. much easier. exporting cars from Italy is now very difficult for a foreign national.

I sorted a recovery backup plan
The car is 50 years old and any failure will stop you
Best to have options.......

Have breakdown cover...!
 
Took her for a drive tonight.. goes really well. Distributor cap was worn, the contacts inside were quite scored. I think it's because the springs were not clamping it down snugly enough so it had some movement. Bent them back a bit and now the new one is secure. Took it for drive, goes really well but heel and toeing seems essential.. and the pedals make itr very difficult. Any way of adjusting the throttle pedal so it sits higher?

Couple of pics from the drive



 
Does your breakdown repatriate you to UK?
For a car that age I doubt that a sensible priced policy will bring you to the UK?
 
My policy took a fifty year old car to the nearest Fiat main dealer! They were quizzical as to what i expected....
 
It's possible to remove the oil slinger without removing the rear cross member. Whether you remove it or not be careful with the M6 bolts. They shear easily especially when tightening. Also they are not equi-spaced so the cover can only go on one way
 
Day one done!
So roughly 460kms. Took me 10 hours on all with only 10 mins for lunch, stopping for video and pics. It would have been about 8 hours I reckon but I hit terrible queues and traffic in Nice which cost me about 1-2 hours. Nightmare.
The Rue De Napoleon was amazing as always and I really enjoyed hustling Sofia round.. Surprisingly grippy round the bends! All went well apart from a little tantrum in Monaco where she refused to start for ten mins. I checked a few connections and then she went... Hopefully that's all it was.

It's actually pretty comfortable and good on non motorway roads.. The only thing is the lack of power is really telling on any incline where she struggles a bit. Got to
Montferrat today. A couple of pics..





Day two: Another good day on the whole..
She refused to start in the morning. I checked all connections again and changed the points just in case.. Then she started right up!
Also borrowed a hydraulic jack and adjusted the clutch but it's made no difference to the iffy gears. To me it definitely feels as if it is not disengaging fully..
Did 565 kms today which was a bit of a slog. Left at 9am and arrived at Chateau Thierry, between Paris and Reims at 7pm..
Continuous driving. Stopped off in Chablis for the pic with the turrets but no time for the local tipple!



 
I think I'd like to get a 126 engine and gearbox.. Anyone know of one going?
 
Tremendous achievement all round!:thumbup:
Please don't give up on the engine so quickly...look what it's done already.:eek: It's worth having a close examination of Its condition when you get back and have recovered. It always seems a shame to modify apparently original and functional 500s like yours.:(
Is the clutch on full adjustment of the thread?
 
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Great progress, well done.

If you are still having fun with the clutch, and have a chance to put it on axle stands or a lift, it's easy to remove the inspection plate and see if the clutch is engaging and releasing fully. IIRC, you set it up to have quite a bit of free movement on the pedal before the clutch engages.

cheers, Steve
 
Tremendous achievement all round!:thumbup:
Please don't give up on the engine so quickly...look what it's done already.:eek: It's worth having a close examination of Its condition when you get back and have recovered. It always seems a shame to modify apparently original and functional 500s like yours.:(
Is the clutch on full adjustment of the thread?

There is more but it is biting high up so I think any more and it will start to slip. To be honest after a second adjustment it is working much better. I'm going to keep the original, there's nothing wrong with it ... But I've driven a 126 engined 500 and want to do the transplant as it is so much nicer to drive.. Can always be put back to standard if need be!
 
Very envious- my attempt lasted 50km and ended up delivered in the back of a transit van!
 
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