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Old 19-07-2008   #16
 
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Re: Engine Conversion From 1.5 to 2.0 Lancia

Keeping in mind that being able to turn the crank over just means it hasn't seized up you should be looking to pay the bare minimum for the engine. Until you know it has good compression, good bearings, valve seating, lack of oil leaks, etc. you have to assume it is just junk. A similar assumption has to stand for the gearbox. Fixing the engine or gearbox up could get a bit expensive but not as much as the turbo. The turbo by itself could easily cost as much as the rest put together to put into full working order.

If the seller is insistent that it is all perfectly good then you need some warranty with it should it prove faulty. If the seller refuses to back down, just walk away unless you want to spend the money...
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Re: Engine Conversion From 1.5 to 2.0 Lancia

well i offered him

Engine and Gearbox for £50
Turbo for £30
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Re: Engine Conversion From 1.5 to 2.0 Lancia

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I have found A HF Integrale 8v 1987 Engine/Gearbox/Turbo
So did you get it for the money you offered Not a cheap engine to rebuild..... even in standard trim
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Re: Engine Conversion From 1.5 to 2.0 Lancia

Hey

Sorry For The Late Reply, I Was Waiting For Him To Say.....

No I Didn't Get It.....He Said He Wanted £400 For It Even Tho It Hasn't Been Run For 5 Years!!

So I Am Still Looking For One.....If Any One Has Me Please PM

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Re: Engine Conversion From 1.5 to 2.0 Lancia

Hi all

Is a Lancia Volumex a good engine?

i never heard of one before and have found one on the web?

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Re: Engine Conversion From 1.5 to 2.0 Lancia

The volumex engines are a real rarity and a nice find if in working order. Yes it is a good choice providing you like superchargers. On the downside they are not just twincams with a blower slapped on the side, they had all sorts of internal mods that can make them a bit tricky when it comes to rebuilds.

Before the dawn of turbochargers the volumex engines was considered the best Fiat/Lancia powerplants you can get.

There is a wealth of information on the twincam engines (volumex included) on Guy Croft's website (www.guy-croft.com).
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Re: Engine Conversion From 1.5 to 2.0 Lancia

Thanks for the link

This engine has no gearbox tho

what gearbox would i have to get for it? and do you know where i can get one?

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Re: Engine Conversion From 1.5 to 2.0 Lancia

I would suggest getting in touch with the monte hospital and see if you can find something suitable from them. A montecarlo gearbox is your easiest option and should bolt straight on to a standard twincam engine.
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Hey I looked on that website....they only seem to sell parts not a whole gearbox

i seen on the internet people put dual webers on X1/9...the same weber but two of them....can you just put them straight on...or do you have to do something to the engine first?

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The gearbox and clutch fitted to the Volumex Beta engine was different from the rest of the range - but a bit of playing around with the parts bin will see you sorted. An engine in standard trim is around 135bhp but with enough torque to go up walls!!

It just so happens that Betas and VXs in particular were 'my thing' so feel free to drop me a line with any questions

If I were you I would not fit the VX lump to the X1/9, the engine (as all Beta lumps) was designed to be inclined as in the Beta and with the blower and manifolds at the front of the engine it's a damn tight squeeze in the X1/9 (oh - and the Monte, which needs a bulkhead modification to get the VX lump in). Fine if you can graft it in but the inlet manifolds etc are unique to the VX beta and the inclined engine design - the practical upshot of which is you need to fabricate special manifolds so a carb fuelled engine will run right.
Way too much like hard work.

The VX engine is notorious for running bearings and oil pumps - the sump isn't properly baffled and to be honest it is an expensive engine to rebuild. I've done 4 VX engines to around 180bhp and it ain't cheap - even if you do it yourself.

I would look at Turbo over Volumex first - but if you find a VX engine they're kind of rare and kind of expensive Worth buying just to sell on
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Re: Engine Conversion From 1.5 to 2.0 Lancia

The volumex equipment is a tight fit in the engine bay but it has been done. The lancia engine tilt actually makes space in the X1/9 engine bay and has long been the preferred option for conversions to the twin cam.

I seem to remember someone recently completing such a conversion but I can't remember where I saw it...
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any help on the "dual webers on X1/9"

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Re: Engine Conversion From 1.5 to 2.0 Lancia

Depends if you are talking about the standard engine or a twin cam...

For the standard engine a set of 36 or 40 Weber DCNF downdrafts are the best as they fit with minor effort - as long as you have a manifold to suit.

I picked up a set of carbs for NZ$150 (56 pounds!) and am getting a pattern made to cast the manifolds as we speak...

you can fit sidedraft DCOE's or downdraft IDF's, but both of these are bigger carbs than the DCNF and are apparently more of an effort/require bodywork modification to fit.

I have put a Fiat Tipo 1600 into mine - this is a much much more straightforward swap than a twin cam as it is pretty much the same engine - with a bit of work/grumpy cam/40DCNF's I think you would be pleasantly surprised at how well it goes....
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Re: Engine Conversion From 1.5 to 2.0 Lancia

hello people i was wondering if you could fit a Rover V8 in a X1/9?
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Here is some work in progress pics of my dads x1/9 with 1.6 turbo engine and box from a lancia delta hf. Fuel tank is getting moved into the front and the intercooler going where it was with air ducted from the n/s air scoop to feed it. Gear selection is achieved by means of linkage and bell crank arrangement which has been taken off for finishing but does work rather well Exhaust system is under construction and the silencer set up will take up residence in what was the rear luggage compartment.
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