Hey Chas i've updated my site with a few pics of the car in the bodyshop but i havent finished the links so you cant enlarge the pics at the mo but i'll get round to doing that later. www.geocities.com/ukoutlaws... If you go to the turbo conversion page theres a link to the horman kit page where the pics can be found! Check it out! P.S my aunt was absolutely shocked when she saw the car lol she couldnt believe i turned her sweet lil innocent uno into a turbo charged monster lol
Regarding Weston Wheels its £10 for a day ticket, £25 for a weekender where you get to camp out, theres free public transport into town so if you wana get totally trashed then you dont have to worry about driving back to the campsite. Club tickets need to be booked in advance, so as i'm going with the Turbo collective i've had to book my tickets already as club space area is limited. Booking your ticket in advance works out cheaper, its £8 for the day and about £22 for the weekender. But if you want to be on the turbo collective stand with us you would have to be there before 11am if you're just visiting for the day. the website is www.westonwheels.co.uk but i dont think that links working anymore not sure why. or telephone number is 0870 235 1340. Turbo Collective started out as a group of friends in south west london, they created a website for their cars and basically its just grown into one big club for all owners of the mighty fiat uno. we have members all over the uk. They will be convoying from all corners of the uk then meeting up at a specified location (still needs to be confirmed) so we can all roll in together. Sounds kool huh? i cant wait!!
RE ur age issue lol ur only as old as u feel mate and you sound pretty kool to me, like they say wisdom comes with age so you should definately try and make it down mate. Maybe you could help some of the lads sort out problems with their cars?? As they say knowledge is power and you seem to have a sound knowledge about engines mate!

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Hey Fro$ty!

Been of line for a couple of weeks, and boy had it got quiet on here!

I checked the pictures of the Hormann body kit, and phew(!), it is a good looking kit. I had in my mind a picture of a body kitted Uno I saw that had four square headlights and a very angular/ blocky kit attached. It looked like a giant Lego kit had been attached to the car, absolutely awful. The Horman kit looks great, and that takes a lot for me to praise a bodykit as I normally hate them!

Regarding Weston Wheels, I think I am still up for it as so far the 29th is free on my work calendar. Have you organised any meeting points yet? For me, half the fun would be riding down the M4 in convoy with loads of Uno's!

How about posting more info next week and see if you can get a lot of Uno owners from this board down as well? It could be a right scream.

Oh, and I always carry my toolkit with me, so just in case anyone breaks down I can normally fix most of the simple faults.....!

By the way, have you got your turbo back on the road yet? Painted with the kit on?

Hope to see the T.K.K. in a couple of weeks!

Chas

Chas

Is the Punto GT engine the same as the Uno Turbo one? Cos ive noticed lots of crash damaged Punto GTs goin cheap thatve been rear-ended.

And when you did your conversion Frosty from 1.0l to UT, were the engine mounts in the 1.0 in the right place for the Turbo engine?

Hey Chris the Punto GT turbo Engine is based on the Mark 2 Uno Turbo Engine, It is VERY similar but uses a different Turbo. Hence it does produce more BHP in Standard form, I think it pushes out about 130BHP as standard whereas the UT produces 118 in standard. Puntos are a lot heavier tho so they aren't THAT quick compared to an UT. To be honest if theres any engine that i could stick in my UT it would be the MARK 1 engine. They are solid as **** and you can get them up to about 300BHP!! I know one guy that beat an Evo 7 with his mark 1! lol But about your other question yeh the engine was a straight swap, the chassis is the same as the Turbo version so it has all the mounting points in the same places. I used a mark 2 engine in mines as my car was a mark 2 anyway so thats why i decided to go for the mark 2 engine. Not sure how easy it is to stick in a mark 1 engine into a mark 2 but i know its been done before. Not sure if anyones stuck in a punto GT engine either but it may be possible. Hope that helps

Chas about Weston Wheels, not sure whas going on but when i find out i'll post up the details. Not sure if i'm gona be able to make it myself now, having a few problems with the car at the moment. Damn shame cos i've really been looking forward to it all year. Just hope i can fix the damn thing in time.

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Ok Chas and to anyone else who may be interested in going, just to let you know most people from Turbo Collective are gonna be meeting up at GORDANO SERVICES AT 4PM on the saturday the 28th. This is to avoid the mad rush into Weston Wheels on the day. Looks like i wont be able to make it down myself as i have blown my head gasket and maybe even cracked the head. Not Good news as you can imagine. i'm Gutted as you might imagine but **** happens, its only inspired me to make my engine even better than before so looks like the UTs gona be off the road for a while before i can afford to get a full engine rebuild done.

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1986Uno45S said:

Smokeme,

You're going to put a 1250 16 valve engine into a Panda?????!!!!!!!!!!

Wow! That would be some car with an engine like that!

And how did you go about turbo charging the 1.0 Fire?

Nice to see someone doing adventurous things with their Fiat!

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The 16V has been placed in the panda and the panda totalled by now, i already placed a parts list for the panda turbo for anyone interested.(sorry i hadn´t looked at this thread, never seen it after my post and thought it died off)

If i could find a Punto GT i would try fitting it into a later Uno(i have a shell, 1993 uno 45 i think)

Hi guys, just registered on the site and need to phone a friend or try a 50/50 on a question. I got a '95 1300 Uno petrol engine and need to know if the diesel Uno lumps have the same gearbox mounts. Long story , might elaborate later but put into basics I have the Uno 1300 petrol in a bike frame ,but I want to convert to diesel using the bike transmission.
Does that make sense ?

are you sure thats a 1300 and not a 1242? i didnt think the 1300 was a fire

Not 100% on the engine, it's a fiat petrol, ask me about bikes lol. So what do you think it is? Can I search the engine no. somewhere ?
Ride safe......er drive safe... fast but safe
Gary

well it a 8v f.i.r.e could be a few sizes, i dont think the diesel will fit with out work.
a 1242 8v mpi petrol from a mk1 punto would though, so would the 1242 16v

Not had it long, will have to post the engine no , see if anyone can recognise it. Not worried about too much work, just dont want to do any more on the chassis , if the diesel lump is different. Main thing is the gearbox dimensions. This one has engine/flywheel/clutch mounted to the Dnepr box and drive shaft. Are the Fiat gearboxes/ bell housings common for petrol and diesel ?
Gotta run now but I'll be back. Sure I heard that somewhere before.....govenor !
Be lucky
Gary

Camogary said:

Are the Fiat gearboxes/ bell housings common for petrol and diesel ?

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Interesting project.

I very much doubt the gearboxes are compatible. From the picture you have there it looks to be a FIRE engine which is petrol, I very much doubt you will be able to fit a diesel box to this, totally different engine, expect the bellhousing to be different. Are you actually going to have space in that frame?

Hi everyone, just finished a 1242cc punto 75 engine swap into an uno...however its not exactly a straight swap as everyone thinks....

first - the flywheel's PCD is slightly smaller...the holes need to be drilled bigger to correct this.

The exhaust pipe sits too close to the body due to the head being slightly bigger....a 1cm spacer fixed this

The starter needs a bit of grinding down on a side of the body otherwise it wont fit

the good news....

Mounts, gearbox, shafts...everything fits perfectly....

If you want to maintain a carburated version like i did, the distributor fits nicely but...there's no eccentric cam for the fuel pump so an electric pump is a must...

For the time being i'm using the standard 45 manifold and carb....( yes the top 4 holes for the manifold dont fit but its not a prob since i used a couple of custom metal plates to fix everyting in place.... This setup does result in a massive power loss but i have a set of 4 kawasaki carbs complete with a custom manifold waiting to come on to the engine...

Still running the 45 setup for testing purposes since i can vouge on functionality of this carb....

aiming for a good 90 hp with the independent carb setup....fingers crossed....



Pics attached:

1 - Engine as bought
2 - Engine reconditioned, all seals and gaskets, pumps and hoses etc renewed. Internal condition checked especially cylinder bore and valves.
Took me a whole day to go from 1 to 2
3- Old engine and gearbox out of the car
4 - Conversion complete a full day's work to carry out
5 - The uno...11 years in my care

Hyperdart said:

Hi everyone, just finished a 1242cc punto 75 engine swap into an uno...however its not exactly a straight swap as everyone thinks....

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Very nice Uno Hyperdart, you must be proud!

Thanks for the post, maybe you should do your own post detailing the work you did more? Also, what pump did you use?

Did you use the Uno gearbox & clutch on the Punto engine? Why didnt the Uno starter fit the Punto block?

I`m guessing you mean the downpipe passed too close to the sump/crossmember? Is a Punto downpipe longer to compensate or is the manifold dfferent?

Is there clearance for the bike carbs?

Thanks!

So let me try to answer your questions:

I used a 'facet' electric fuel pump - low pressure type used for carbs, I limited the pressure further by using a Tee and diverting part of the fuel flow back to the tank. To adjust the amount of fuel that is returned, all it took was a jubilee clip throttling the return line, the tighter the clip the less fuel returned and the higher the pressure. I didnt need any adjustments, the standard weber carb is very tolerant to fuel pressure variations. I obviously used a fused relay to activate the pump which switches on upon ignition.

Regarding the gearbox and clutch / flywheel, yes its all uno stuff...everything fit ok except for the flywheel bolts. You need to enlarge the holes on the flywheel. Dont worry about centering it correctly as it has a central notch that aligns the flywheel irrespective of the mounting bolts.

The starter fits perfectly on the flange but the punto block has some lettering embossed some 3 mm which causes the starter to fit in a distorted fashion .... grinding down some of the thickness on the starter body allows a good fit.

Also the exhaust pipe...i think the head is slightly elongated and the manifold seems pretty identical on the outside....this causes the pipe to pass some 5mm away from the cross member...if the engine vibrates (such as during started) the pipe will thump and clank against the cross.... 5mm - 1cm spacers is all you need. I fabricated 2 x 5 mm spacers stacked upon each other.... The manifold to down pipe studs where carefuly removed using lots of wd40 and a heavy wrench and replaced with stainless steel bolts approx 2" in length.

The bike carbs are a tight fit...but they should fit....on my last attempt they didnt squeeze in by a mere 1-1.5cm mainly due to the internal heater matrix connections and the master cylinder tubing.
Since then I bent slightly backwards the rigid pipe from the master cylinder and shortened the custom bike carb manifold by 1-2cm....I havent tried them on but they should fit....fingers crossed....

In case they dont...I'll get a punto manifold and throw in a standard weber .....

Good stuff Hyperdart. Good practical tips. The issues you have faced are familiar to those who have used this engine in a Panda or Cento including starter, block being 1cm higher, etc.

Why did you not use the Punto flywheel and clutch?

Basically i knew my gearbox was in good shape so i didnt buy a punto box... also the punto box requires that i change the gear lever due to the linkages being replaced by cables...and i didnt want to do that....

Now i'm planning to fit a set of 257mm tipo TD brakes and the job should be ready....

Also i managed to run the carb setup...here are a couple of pics

Nice. Looks like an unusual set up. About the Punto flywheel; I would have thought the flywheel and clutch would just work with the uno box and release bearing. Certainly does with the old panda. All the smaller engine (SOHC/FIRE/OHV) clutch splines from the era are the same.

hello Hyperdart
First I would like to thank you because your subject has advised me and encouraged me to do as you did.
but my flywheel and the starter fited in my gearbox good without any modification.
and i fited my exhaust pipe good with no prblems
This may be due because the car industry is not Italian and its Polish
model 1998 or i got other Engine i think my new Engine is punto 70 not 75 but it look the same as your pic
But the problem is that I feel that the motor does not give out all its power
i think because we fited the old carb for the 1.0 Engine
and I want a solution to this problem
thx Hyperdart

I think you have what we call the punto 60 engine over here... its the 1242cc with single point injection....the inlet ports are round not oval....

and yes expect huge losses in power with the original carburator....you need an adapter plate and a weber 32/34 for the engine to breathe properly...Ideally fabricate a custom manifold....

I will post the pics as soon as i have this setup running....

Also think about upgrading the brakes.....i threw in a 257mm set from a brava/bravo perfect fit...just 5mm spacing required