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Old 11-01-2006   #1
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engine swap cost + clutch problem

hey, firstly, for future references,
i was wondering if anyone knew how much it would cost to take out a 999cc FIRE engine from my uno and put in a 1.4 turbo in.
cost including engine, loom, gearbox, FITTING and whatever else is needed.
im planning to change the engine when mine dies eventually.

also i had a problem with my clutch today, it felt different and it rattled when pushed in but it drove fine.
got home and it was still there. drove it up the road and back, then looked under the bonnet and couldnt find anything strange.
drove it up the road and back again and it had gone?
anyone have any experience of this? know what it could be?

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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

Sounds like the clutch release bearing is on its way out. Engine swap will be a couple of thousand not including the engine fron what I havegleamed from previous similar questions.
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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

ok thanks i will keep an eye on it and see if the clutch plays up again. any ideas of the cost of putting that bearing right?
ok maybe the turbo conversion is out of the question
oh well, cheap insurance for me!
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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

Is your uno mk1 or mk2? I dont think it would be too much to fit a uno turbo engine into a non-turbo uno. I have a complete mk1(1301cc)engine bay with loo,ecu ect that would go straight into a mk1. it would need wiring up of couse.
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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

its a mk2...
anyway i was planning to do an engine swap when i finish my degree in a few years. not now.
i just like things organised.
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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

dont forget when doing UT engine swap, you'll need UT brakes and suspension.

re the clutch. the gearbox has to come off. new valeo clutch kit ur looking at £55 in parts alone. not sure what garage would charge, prolly around £100 in labour costs as well
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I think it is much easier to get a whole Turbo than trying to put its engine into 45. Also, I would not want to try to convince a MOT inspector that it is 999 ccm engine he is looking at after such swap.
As for the clutch, Valeo is good middle-of-the-road compromise between price and durability.
BUT, for the 999 engine, any cheap aftermarket clutch will do. I have made a good experience with QH, i.e. Quinton Hazel, in my other car. The price was about 1/2 - 2/3 of Valeo clutch. Funny side of the story is that the thing had "Valeo friction materials" etc. printed all over.
For 45, you do not need supposedly indestructrible (and 2x more expensive than Valeo) Sachs clutch - it would outlive the car.
As for the bearing... It may be that you can get the bearing as a spare part depending on the clutch manufacturer, but I would not bother with that and replace the whole 3-piece assembly while the gearbox is out. The money saved is not worth the hassle of having to repeat the procedure in future.
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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

why don't you just turbo your fire engine?

Check out smokeme's link http://turbofire.no.sapo.pt/
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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

Originally Posted by M@nticore
why don't you just turbo your fire engine?

Check out smokeme's link http://turbofire.no.sapo.pt/
i was going to do that but then i got talked out of it by some forum members
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I started with my conversion, turbo branch is finished and turbo mounted, just need to modify my sump for return and do all my intake and exhaust piping. going to run low boost at first say 0.4 bar till I got my new engine sorted.
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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

looks very cool, let me know how it goes at how much i this costing? its alright to do if you can get everything i spose, maybe you'd like to do mine after if its reliable
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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

odd place to mount the turbo

surely it's going to melt the bonnet there.. how are you running the exhaust downpipe - looks like a sevre bend!
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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

when i'm finished with my oil piping and intake piping, i'm gonna get the downpipe fitted with the rest of the freeflow system.the whole system inc my manifold is stainless steel, as i find that on turbo conversions the manifold tends to crack too easy,gonna put a heatshield over the turbo & exhaust wrap around the exhaust piping.teh turbo is also more than 5cm away from the bonnet, as for the bent, it's going to run from the turbo past the oil filter, then underneath the sump.planned all of this carefully with my exhaust installer before begining
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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

cool, if it'll fits

Im still looking at turbo'ing my 1242 Cinq - so am looking at any deisgns for turboing FIRE engines i can find
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Re: engine swap cost + clutch problem

duno about the space on you cabby as i've never worked on them,but i've seen most of the people fitting them at the bottom of the engine. but i on the other hand like to see a big ass turbo when i open my bonnet to show it off!!
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