Problems with MM ME111T tuning box

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Problems with MM ME111T tuning box

AusPanda

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I've just bought and installed a MM ME111T. 2013 Panda TA 85hp manual.

With the tuning box installed, performance was even worse than without it in Eco mode.

Second start-up and the engine check light came on.

Checked the codes, it was P0068. Cleared it with my Scangauge.

With a Google search, I found this: "The generic trouble code P0068 refers to an engine management problem. A disparity exists between the computer's sensors as to the volume of air entering the intake manifold."

I was able to figure out the me100.com site (boy wasn't that fun) to clear the box and upload new software. I uploaded the 'xxx' software as suggested in the 500 forum recently.

Went for another drive, it was just the same.

According to the translation of the (Italian) instructions, it might be that "Excessive pressure of the turbine. Pressure Sensors maladjusted . Controller ME110T defective."

The solution is:
"Make sure you have inserted the values of change recommended. If the defect persists reduce calibrations with the options change soft."

Has anyone with a MM tuning box had this problem? I'd like to solve it with a software update if possible. The me100.com programme does recognise the box, but clearly it is not working properly.
 
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If you set the map on the module to 0 of no map selected dose the fails disappear?
Have you picked the correct map for your car from there menu.
Are you using the correct harness from box to your car wiring loom.
Are you cinected to right point in your car.

Gary
 
If you set the map on the module to 0 of no map selected dose the fails disappear?
Have you picked the correct map for your car from there menu.
Are you using the correct harness from box to your car wiring loom.
Are you cinected to right point in your car.

Gary

I just tried the 0 setting using the remote, and it made no difference. Settings 1 and 2 are exactly the same as 0 - that is, terrible. I will take the box out and hook it up to my laptop to check if the settings have actually changed (ie perhaps the remote isn't working) but I don't think that is the problem.

Yes I picked the "xxx" map from the menu, as discussed on the thread in the 500 forum. There is no TwinAir map in the menu.

The harness is p/n ME199FG, which as far as I can tell is the correct one.

I used this video as a guide for fitment:


which is for a different tuning box but the connections appear to be the same. The connections on the ME199FG fit perfectly, and I checked the connections 3 times to make sure.

If anyone can tell me if I've done anything incorrectly here I'd be happy to know. At the moment though, it looks like I have a dud box, software or wiring harness.
 
not a Twinair option..??
doesn't sound like the correct product to me..!!(n)


You need to read the thread on the 500 forum to see why I have used the 'XXX' software.

https://www.fiatforum.com/500/359475-warning-marelli-twinair-tuning-box-users.html

I just checked on my laptop, the remote does work. I selected the 0 setting when I took the car for a drive (it was in setting 2 before) and the screen now shows that it is in setting 0 now.

The tuning box shows a date stamp of 1/11 (Jan 2011) if that means anything.

I will contact MM tech support and see how I go...
 
I uploaded the 'xxx' software as suggested in the 500 forum recently.
I'm afraid we can't be sure this 'xxx' software is the same as 3 months ago. At that time it was meant for the TwinAir 85 engine, but is that still the case?

The solution is:
"Make sure you have inserted the values of change recommended. If the defect persists reduce calibrations with the options change soft."
I don't understand this. Who gave you this solution?
 
I'm afraid we can't be sure this 'xxx' software is the same as 3 months ago. At that time it was meant for the TwinAir 85 engine, but is that still the case?

I don't understand this. Who gave you this solution?

This was from the instructions that came with the tuning box. I used an online translation tool as the instructions are in Italian.

Even if the 'xxx' software isn't the right one, it makes no difference to how my car drives with the tuning box. It is exactly the same as before I uploaded xxx into it.

The 'solution' suggests that MM can send you an update to upload, or put it on the site as they did for one of the 500 owners.
 
That maybe because there is no map installed in that folder on MM website.

No I don't think so because I deleted the existing software and uploaded the XXX software. If there was nothing there how could the car run at all?
 
Even though you downloaded a map maybe there is nothing stored MM end. So you may be downloading a blank map. We do not know whats stored MM end for that xxx map. I even asked for the map to be sent via email for backup but they never sent the map.
 
If anyone who has the MM me100t software access could please PM me with the email and phone number for me100t tech support I'd appreciate it. I know I've seen this info there but of course both my accounts have been blocked so I can't get in :(
 
The Magneti Marelli Elaborazioni 1.3 software says:

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The Magneti Marelli Elaborazioni 1.3 software says:

me100t.png

Thanks AGM - that was very helpful.

I actually emailed them on Monday, taking a punt on the email address from memory. Turns out it was the right one.

I called the tech support number in Italy just now, and spoke to a guy who spoke quite good English. He said that they had received "an email", and that someone would replay "soon". I pressed him on when, and he said in the next couple hours.

What he said about my two accounts being blocked was interesting. He said that the accounts were blocked because the restricted area of the website is for workshops or those who've done Magneti Marelli training courses only.

Why I could register so easily in the first place I don't know.

Anyway, I'll update as things progress.
 
Thanks AGM - that was very helpful.

I actually emailed them on Monday, taking a punt on the email address from memory. Turns out it was the right one.

I called the tech support number in Italy just now, and spoke to a guy who spoke quite good English. He said that they had received "an email", and that someone would replay "soon". I pressed him on when, and he said in the next couple hours.

What he said about my two accounts being blocked was interesting. He said that the accounts were blocked because the restricted area of the website is for workshops or those who've done Magneti Marelli training courses only.

Why I could register so easily in the first place I don't know.

Anyway, I'll update as things progress.

looking for positive update from MM italy..
hopefully it they will provide maps for panda twinair.
if you have one please let me know...
 
Well the saga continues. Have been in email correspondence with MM for last few days.
They keep asking for pics of the harness connection to the inlet manifold. I've sent a variety of them, fron the top, from the side, close up, from a distance. Last one I just sent with the engine cover off. I understand that they have to make sure it's the right sensor that I'm connecting the harness to, but really?

Can you guys who've fitted the ME111T please tell me if the video link above shows the correct sensor connections? If so, I feel as though MM is stuffing me around.
 
Yes, the video shows the right sensor connections. If you connected all 5 connectors of the wiring harness properly, then the wiring harness itself might be faulty.
 
Yes, the video shows the right sensor connections. If you connected all 5 connectors of the wiring harness properly, then the wiring harness itself might be faulty.

Yes I think it has to be either the harness, the MM box electrics or the box software. I just wish MM technical help would move past asking me about the harness connections!

I have sent them a link to the video of the TMC box install, the Novitec tuning box install pdf explaining that was exactly how I connected the harness. I have also sent at least 8 pics of the harness connected on my car. The pics will not win awards but from them you can see pretty clearly what is where.

If they now ask me for the sixth time (I kid you not) for pics of the connections... I'll just send the damn thing back to the supplier and forget the whole thing. I understand that they have to be sure that the connections are right - and I'd be really happy if all that was wrong was that I'd hooked it up incorrectly - but I'm getting bored with this.
 
AusPanda, why did you consult Magneti Marelli instead of your supplier?
 
AusPanda, why did you consult Magneti Marelli instead of your supplier?

I was really hoping that the problem might just be software. If MM sent me a tune, I could simply load it up to my tuning box here in Australia.

The supplier in Italy can't do that, AFAIK, Black Srl. is just a retailer of tuning parts.

So the only alternative to MM sending me a tune via email is to send the box back to the supplier in Italy, and getting another in exchange.

If I don't have any luck with MM early next week I think I'll just do that - send it back. Because I'm in Australia, postage to and from Italy gets expensive though...
 
I think I've found the problem. I had a closer look at the wiring harness, gently pulling at the wires at the back of the connectors and on female connectors checking that the pins lined up. I couldn't see anything obviously wrong with it, and thought I'd give it one more go before shipping the whole thing back.

Well, no Engine trouble light on second start-up, and power is back. I couldn't tell driving around the block if it's much better; mid-range response does seem better than standard though. I need to get onto to a motorway and play around with the remote to see if there's a difference.

Black Parts has offered to send me a new harness FOC so I think that might be problem solved :)
 
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