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Posts: 116 Thanks: 3 Trader Rating: 0 | ECU image's I wonder if there is anyone out there that can help me to a modified chip image for the sedicivalvole. I'll extract the original data from the chip some day soon(when the programmer is back up and running) and would like to experiment with an alternative chip image in combination with injector size, airflow, rev limit and fuel pressure. Or maybe someone can help me to chip emulating software in which i can see, modify and emulate .bin ecu image's. I know that's a steep learning curve but it combines my freetime interests. ECU data is following: IAW 4Q1 155 92 6160010600 7747420 Z12V- Tipo 2L 16V ECO P8/PQP_RG The chip image is attached in the zip
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Posts: 500 Thanks: 9 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: ECU image's If you havent changed the engine then there's virtually no point in doing any changes to the chip. It would all be guess work, inlike using RPlabs S/W on the RR, along with some other changes like a cam. | ||
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Posts: 116 Thanks: 3 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: ECU image's Rich, it would be nice though to compare the .bin data to lets say a coupe 16V non turbo version as the sedici has another cam profile. I found out that as a software i can use TunerPro only i have to rewrite, mod, a xdf file to match the hex data from the bin. It might be that there is an .xdf available around here i can use ? You know i have a spare engine which i can fool around with as much as i like, it is still in tipo2 so i could setup the whole thing live.
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Posts: 500 Thanks: 9 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: ECU image's I have images actualy screens rather of the mk2 ignition timing from RPlabs I used it to compare the advance on the first engine - which the rolling road guy detonated to hell, the comparison showed the advance to be sod all. Anyway thats a diff story. You might have lick on the german tipo forum. | ||
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Posts: 116 Thanks: 3 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: ECU image's Thanks, will have a look tomorrownight, found a nice easy schematic to build a smallband led display to see what the lambda is reading now and if there is any need to change anything at all. I'll try to make it next week if the chip is available, it should be cause it is very common. Probably they have beards there, the sites don't work, neither of'm
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Posts: 16,760 Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 177 Trader Rating: 3 | Re: ECU image's Proof if you ever needed it that Wikipedia is pants.
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Posts: 116 Thanks: 3 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: ECU image's Jippee ! I'll do some looking over there too.
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Posts: 15 Thanks: 1 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: ECU image's here is another ecu image I have for TIPO 16V The hex addresses that might interest you are : 1} Ignition v.s. rpm breakpoints at : aa-0 to ab-f and the math formula to calculate the rpm breakpoints is :30000000 / DecValue (16bit) 2} Ignition vs. “air density” breakpoints at : ac0 to adf can't tell you the math formula to calculate these breakpoints because I do not know the MAP sensor type that TIPO 16V 2.0 lt use. and 3} Ignition base curve-map, at ae0 to b7f and the math formula is DecValue/4 {8bit}. You could probably use the Coupe 16VT xdf {for Tuner Pro} as the hex addresses are the same for ignition but I do not know about the MAP {air density} breakpoints. I have the one attached but there are mistakes in it. Regards Nick PS. If you have a reliable xdf for TIPO might be interesting for me to. Could you post it here?
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Posts: 15 Thanks: 1 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: ECU image's sorry, by mistake I've attached the same ecu image as the one you've posted. This is the other one I have. Nick
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Posts: 116 Thanks: 3 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: ECU image's How nice ! Did you ever try the image you attached ? Is it from a specific tuner or original rom, i'm kinda busy the last few weeks so i didn't get to creating anything in the xdf front. I do get the principal though. The xdf is the translation overlay for the image. a friend of mine has connections at squadra, maybe they can help a little. If you tested the rom and know it's good i'll give it a try.
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Posts: 15 Thanks: 1 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: ECU image's No. I did not try this map or any other map for the Tipo. I believe they are both from an original rom - different version though. You see, I have an Alfa Romeo 155 Q4 of '95 and searching for the authentic Tipo 16V 2,0 lt ecu image {map} came up your post. I'm thinking seriously to mount in my car {Q4} the inlet cam from the TIPO 16V 2,0 lt - the one from the 5 doors TIPO, with lift at 10,150mm - and I'm curious to see the advance curve from the authentic rom used with this cam. Do you know if your 5 door tipo mounts this cam? It should be. Any way if I can be of more help let me know.My e=mail is 'arjunior45@hotmail.com' regards Nick PS. If you ever find a used inlet cam for TIPO with 10.150mm lift please let me know - if it's not too much for you.
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