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i really dont want to ask but i've no choice , how can i remove a stuck sump plug on my multipla because the bell end that had it before me tightened it up so tight it's rounded off so i put it on a trolley jack and axle stands heated it up with a small blow torch and got a stilsons wrench on it but it's point blank refusing to budge even a tiny fraction and if i can help it i dont want to take it to a garage and say ''excuse me mister can you loosen this please'' like a muppet , any ideas please apart from a stick of dynamite :D
 
Hi,

what vehicle, ?:confused:
cast sump / or pressed steel..??

the pressed steel use a tapered "grub screw" with an allen key type hex socket,

others can have a flange + seal washer like lesser vehicles;)

I've ground two flats on these and used a LARGE adjustable to remove it before.

NOT really recommended with the tapered plug type, as it'll collapse:(

Charlie
 
I've ground two flats on these and used a LARGE adjustable to remove it before.

NOT really recommended with the tapered plug type, as it'll collapse:(

Charlie
sorry i should have said it's a multipla and i did think about grinding it so a socket or spanner would give a tight fit but the way the stilson has chewed into it the last thing i want to do is shear it off flat to the sump which would mean taking the sump off for a basic oil change , i did consider a vacuum extractor but i prefer to change the oil by the plug
 
I'd ordered a new replacement,
and then compared the thing with the stuck one..,

car had FULL FIAT History..!!

tbh - the grinding does a good job of warming it up..,
then the spanner flat gives a great purchase

IF you shear it level.. it'll either not seal.. so you can unscrew the remains..

OR - it'll be stuck fast and you're still in a position to use a suction device..,

Charlie
 
tbh - the grinding does a good job of warming it up..,
tried heat with the blow torch to the point of me breathing in not very nice fumes and putting a fire extinguisher near me just in case , i have never in my life had something so simple but so much as a pain in the arse give me so much hassel .....apart from my wife :D and she is simple but don't tell her i said that as she'll kick my arse:D
 
tried heat with the blow torch to the point of me breathing in not very nice fumes and putting a fire extinguisher near me just in case
Not wanting to state the obvious, but you did heat the sump around the plug, not the plug itself? You want to expand the female thread away from the plug, not expand the plug into it. The only other option is to drill the plug out to the point it's just a thin shell and then use a pair of grips or a punch to collapse the remains.

Robert G8RPI
 
VIBRATION!

If you are still stuck then you can try the following:

1) Obtain these (or similar)
http://www.screwfix.com/p/irwin-bolt-grip-nut-remover-set-5-pieces/96028

2) Obtain air ratchet wrench https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/clarke-cat109-three-eights-inch-reversible-air?da=1&TC=GS-000310109

3) If 2) doesn't work then you will need an impact wrench (electric or air)

When I've come across stubborn nuts/bolts then almost always I've found that the vibration/short sharp impacts of an air wrench eventually loosen the offending items.
 
well stuff it i'm afraid i have got to admit defeat on this , never in my life messing about with engines cars bikes etc have i had something so simple turn out to be a major pain in the arse , the only way i can get the **** out is removing the sump , which is not going to happen ,GOD GIVE ME STRENGTH , i've got to take it to garage :( and the best thing is i got a welder from aldi about 5 years ago and never used it so i sold it , if only i had it now i could put a blob of weld on a nut and 'robert's yer muvvers bruvver'
 
well stuff it i'm afraid i have got to admit defeat on this , never in my life messing about with engines cars bikes etc have i had something so simple turn out to be a major pain in the arse , the only way i can get the **** out is removing the sump , which is not going to happen ,GOD GIVE ME STRENGTH , i've got to take it to garage :( and the best thing is i got a welder from aldi about 5 years ago and never used it so i sold it , if only i had it now i could put a blob of weld on a nut and 'robert's yer muvvers bruvver'

still waiting for a photo.. so more relevant advice can be given :eek:

have you got the replacement plug yet..??:confused:
 
i'll put up a photo of it in a bit and i got a replacement plug for it about a week ago , i still cant understand how it can be stuck so solid it's like it's been bloody welded
 
i'll put up a photo of it in a bit and i got a replacement plug for it about a week ago , i still cant understand how it can be stuck so solid it's like it's been bloody welded


Have you tried chisseling it to get it to undo?

Otherwise just drive to a garage and ask them to do the simple job that you would have done had you had your aldi welder. Pick your garage and its going to be really cheap

You will not be the first person to have a stuck oil plug
 
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Have you tried chisseling it to get it to undo?

Otherwise just drive to a garage and ask them to do the simple job that you would have done had you had your aldi welder. Pick your garage and its going to be really cheap

You will not be the first person to have a stuck oil plug

Personally I would NOT weld it :(

issues with electronics , AND the risk if tacking the plug to the sump ( through threads):bang:

Brazing..? possibly..

:idea: - IF I had a pattern plug in my hand.. I would drill out the core and then use heat + an" Easy out" ( US pattern) the wind the remnants out,

ZERO risk to electronics, and reduced fire risk(y)

Charlie
 
Hi Just joined this site looks good and reading your problem i think id take to garage get them to undo it ....some jobs can like that can go from bad to worse..:) anyway gud luk
 
I would drill it out and re-tap the thread. If you foul up the thead you could drill right out and re-tap to a larger thread size. I am not familiar with that engine (a photo would help), but things might be easier if you could take off the sump and get it onto a bench - or to an enginering workshop to do the job.
 
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