Technical Rear Bush Questions

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Technical Rear Bush Questions

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yes this ol' chestnut...

i'm weighing up my options. do i...

A) go for standard fit silentblock/hydraulic/oil filled bushes and fork out £40 for the tooling?

-OR-

B) go for a decent quality aftermarket bush (namely Meyle HD) with a 4yr warranty and not worry about a tooling cost as they'll most probably be a rubber type replacement and i can 'slip' them in with a socket?

this never really works very well on forums but if option (A) does anyone have the tooling they could lend me or sell me for <£20?

i understand the bushes have to be fitted a certain way (especially with the 'oil filled' type) im assuming i would have to compensate for a 30mm drop?

finally i know the rear axle is supposed to flex under cornering which creates a kind of toe in on the rears to aid with stability of the rear during cornering. would fitting aftermarket bushes hinder this or should i really be going for the 'oil filled' type?
 
The Meyle HD bushes are a copy of the originals so would still need the same tools to fit them with.

A mark on the bushes has to be aligned with a weld line on the axle. It doesn't matter whether the the car is lowered.

All aftermarket rear bushes are oil filled hydraulic bushes, the same as the originals. The rear suspension is designed to work only with that type of bushes.
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cheers Devran... as usual, excellent reply!

i'm thinking if any one has the tooling to remove/install the bushes i probably wouldn't even need to borrow it. if anyone could provide accurate measurements i could bodge a set together
 
I found the fiat bush tools part numbers in threads long ago and was in process of pricing or ordering but didn't go any further.
ill see if I can find the part numbers again. they weren't very expensive, but was not certain which parts matched numbers.
these were some eper numbers I cross referenced to fiat numbers
2000007800 was £34.00
2000000200 was £5.57
2000000300 was £4.64
none were in stock and as said cant remember what tools they related to(just found my post it note when I rang for prices/stock)
just checked eper again some prices up some down £16, £6 and £6 at minute
here is the thread showing tools shape design etc I think that's where I got on trail of part numbers
https://www.fiatforum.com/stilo/248971-franklin-tools-stilo-rear-bushes.html
 
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Hi #Saw ,
not done mine yet. my plan is to hacksaw the old out and press the new one in

The 3 legged tool is £22.97 from Fiat. My local says its available for next day delivery with the part number of 2.000.000.400.

I think i can get hold of a hydraulic tool to ease her back in again, i fear ill have fun resizing the bush to fit though dont have a clue where to go to get it done.
 
it does seem a relatively 'easy' job to do its just a lot of work.

the more i read through shadeys posts and the more i talk to people about it the more i scare myself.

my ONLY worry is getting the new bushes fitted correctly and whilst it seems straight forward, the fact that more than 1 forum member has had to machine down the outer sleeve of the bush just seems counter productive to me but its been explained to death on here and ive come to accept that the axle is good for maybe 1 repair in fiats eyes, due to the stretching of the axle eye when fitting new bushes. ill bet my bottom dollar the bushes have been done on mine but have no proof.
 
Stay calm that eye does not stretch enough.. you will see when the bush gets stuck mid way.
Even if it would stretch it would be very easy for manufacturers to just make a slightly bigger one.
I helped a friend replace the bushings on 2 stilos. He has done many more and never needed to machine down the bushings. What i would say.. you need a really strong bush puller. or a high tensile strength bolt and a nut
 
NO, that's not what i meant.
I was talking about the adapter with 3 legs that pushes the bush in
like the one in this picture: 14.jpg

My friend who installs these uses a custom 3 legged press ..it's a lot stronger than the regular presses you ca buy.
Even so we still had to use a pretty big breaker bar.

Clean the bushes and their slots/ holes; use sandpaper; For the hole it's easyer to use the kind of sandpaper that fits on a drill; like this one: 1.jpg; also use some oil/lubricant a very thin film( we used some lubricating oil in a can with some Teflon additive in it.
 
aurick:worship::idea: AH HA as they say well ill try that then (first time i have seeen this)oh well :rolleyes: near side bush is now beyond repair/usefulness :D
 
im not sure if that "NO" was meant for me or not ?
that's exactly the tool I said you were probably on about ?
I said
I think hes referring to the tool with 3 prongs that sit in the 3 notches in the bush, so it only pulls on the outer and doesn't strain the inner during the pull in process, not as in 3 leg pullers.
 
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just to try to clear things up... i think saw means that he hasnt used the 3 pronged special tool for bush fitting, he just used a 3 leg hydraulic puller... hence why his bush fitment went awry.

#saw you need to get the 3 pronged tool that Aurick has circled and i have given the part number and price for
 
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