Re: Advise On Steering Wheel Controls

https://www.fiatforum.com/stilo/345801-1-6-dynamic-power-steering-failure-2.html?p=3442405

Any advice for me on fitting a column? There are no guides on here. Does the wheel need to come off??

My EPS ECU is crackling when resting and I have no power steering.

You could try removing the red plastic part from the positive connector to allow the clamp to tighten further. I don't think the negative connector has the plastic part though. Other than that, you would have to fit new connectors on the battery leads.
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They both have plastic on. I think the connectors are ceased. Bit of wd??

I still can't believe no one has taken a steering column off on this forum!

Looking Like an ECU recalibration anyway and fiat can bigoff with their £1.5k price tag too! (And that's WITHOUT labour!!!!)

I can't wait to get shot of this nail!

google for BBA Reman give them a call for prices

Ta very much

pughga said:

I still can't believe no one has taken a steering column off on this forum

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As Rich posted earlier "Stilo EPS failure is almost unheard of" I don't recall anyone on here ever having changed one.
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Davren said:

As Rich posted earlier "Stilo EPS failure is almost unheard of" I don't recall anyone on here ever having changed one.
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Hmmm... Well, it is all heresay until i get it up on a ramp and plugged in. Fiat did say it sounded like the EPS, but also said it could be a simple cable to it. They also said it's a COMMON fault on Stilos, though not as bad as Puntos.

Fiat will say anything is a common fault if it involves you parting with the best part of £1500-2000... hell if you gave me that much money id tell you its a common problem and it happens to every single one regardless of build date or spec.

the thing is a forum as established as this one will more than likely have a more accurate depiction of faults and a larger knowledge base of the real world issues with a marque of this age. Fiat, on the otherhand, will only have a view of what they actually see pass through their doors. so if a certain amount of people take their stilos in for steering faults compared to, for instance, water in the fuseboard... then fiat will never recognise water in the fuseboard as a reoccuring problem. and even then it would be regional... for instance in Coventry we dont get a massive amount of rain so water in the fuseboard would be quite uncommon... if you travel 30 miles to Walsall (they generally get more rain than Coventry) you would see more instances of this fault. what Walsall would see as common Coventry wouldn't.

maybe i should have worded my previous post more along the lines of 'on this forum Stilo EPS failure is almost unheard of'


as for your seized battery terminals... a spray of WD40 probably wouldnt go amiss.

finally... its not a nail... you're only saying that to hurt our feelings

Batt cured with wd40.

She's in today for a diagnostic and then service and repair, dependent on cost.

The rear o/s wheels brake has ceased too. That grinding noise is back with avengence on drivers o/s.

Will update with details.

Didn't know cov had less rain than Walsall either...

Haven't got the fault codes just yet, but it's the main ECU that's the culprit. Just had a call from the garage. It's got FOUR faults, three are power steering related. The other is a power key? I'll get em later. BUT, eps is now working! (Odd!!)

It's now on the MOT ramp and we'll see what else it fails on. I know the rear brake ceasing won't be pleasant and that grinding will be something to do with it...

Also just read up about the D4 here: https://www.fiatforum.com/stilo-guides/99828-d4-connector.html ...VERY interesting!

Still not seen her yet. She's still up on a ramp. :^S

She's only passed with advisories on the binding brakes (??!!!) so I'm treating her to a full service whilst she's up there.

The codes that keep bouncing back:

U1702
P0606
U1600
U1700
C1013

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Stilo 1.6 EPS Failure and Constant Stalling

Hey all,

Diagnostic carried out on my Stilo and the faults all but reset apart from some errors bouncing back.

Codes I have:
U1702
P0606
U1600
U1700
C1013

Caused me to have a minor crash as the bloody steering locked up on it's own!! Is it an ECU replacement?

Also when idling she doesn't purr away any more, she'll splutter between 0-1000 and stall. MANY times. Any ideas? She's just been serviced!!

Again is this ECU??

Thanks!!

Re: Stilo 1.6 EPS Failure and Constant Stalling

pughga said:

Is it an ECU replacement?

Again is this ECU??

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Please do not post duplicate threads about the same problem.

You've already said in post 31 above that it is the ECU.
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Re: Stilo 1.6 EPS Failure and Constant Stalling

And no-one's replied since! NO-ONE!! Other than scrap the effing thing I'm coming on here for help and not getting it!!!! HELP PLEASE!!!!

Re: Stilo 1.6 EPS Failure and Constant Stalling

Also, the idling I've never mentioned before.... PLEASE ANYONE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE BEFORE I SET FIRE TO THE NAIL AND CLAIM IT ON INSURANCE. I'M FED UP WITH IT!!!

Those codes again:
U1702
P0606
U1600
U1700
C1013

Re: Stilo 1.6 EPS Failure and Constant Stalling

@richydraper replied to your original post 6 weeks ago, the same day you posted it. He made several suggestions of preliminary checks you could do to assist with diagnosis of the problem. You chose not to reply as to whether you'd carried out those checks, or the results.

Four week ago, you said "it's the main ECU that's the culprit". Again, you chose not to tell us whether you'd had a new one fitted or the old one repaired, or done nothing. Now you're asking again "Is it an ECU replacement?"

Despite Rich telling you that "Stilo EPS failure is almost unheard of", and later me telling you that "I don't recall anyone on here ever having changed one" you said you "can't believe no one has taken a steering column off on this forum". If you don't believe what we're saying, then there is little point us trying to help you any further.

pughga said:

Other than scrap the effing thing I'm coming on here for help and not getting it!!!! HELP PLEASE!!!!

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pughga said:

PLEASE ANYONE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE BEFORE I SET FIRE TO THE NAIL AND CLAIM IT ON INSURANCE. I'M FED UP WITH IT!!!

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Threats of help me or I'll scrap or set fire to the car will get you nowhere.

Re: Stilo 1.6 EPS Failure and Constant Stalling

pughga said:

Also, the idling I've never mentioned before.... PLEASE ANYONE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE BEFORE I SET FIRE TO THE NAIL AND CLAIM IT ON INSURANCE. I'M FED UP WITH IT!!!

Those codes again:
U1702
P0606
U1600
U1700
C1013

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U1600 = key not recognised

P0606 = PCM Processor Fault = It basically means that the PCM/ECM (powertrain/engine control module) has detected an internal integrity fault in the PCM.

U1700 = CAN Network NCM - NBC (Engine Management ECU - Body ECU)

U1702 = CAN Network NCM - NGE (Engine Management ECU - Electric Power Steering ECU)

c1013 - PAS control unit fault

HOPE THIS HELPS