General Replacing Rear Bushes and Wheel Bearings ..
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General Replacing Rear Bushes and Wheel Bearings ..
Thanks Davren! I may go for the 2004 subframe anyway so I can take my time getting the new one ready to fit and rust proof it etc while I'm at it 
Are the 3dr 2002 and 5dr 2004 subframes interchangeable? I assume they are...
Are the 3dr 2002 and 5dr 2004 subframes interchangeable? I assume they are...
I remember checking this years ago when Shadey was investigating fitting rear bushes.
ePER used to list several part numbers for the subframe for different models, but numerous part number changes filtered it down to just 2 numbers for the entire range. One for cars fitted with HID Xenon headlamps and one without HIDs. The only difference was a small bracket on the subframe for HIDs to mount the rear automatic headlamp adjuster sensor on.
Can't say for sure, but this would suggest that all non HID subframes are the same, and all with HID subframes are the same.
Some of the part number changes could be because of modifications to the subframe, so I would be happier fitting a later one to an early car than I would fitting an early one to a later car.
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Thats interesting, thanks for the info
The seller hasn't stated whether its from a car with HIDs or not. Is it something obvious to look for? Will a HID one fit my none HID anyway (obviously with the leveling sensor being redundant)?
Yes.. the HID version would fit a non HID car. It's just a small bracket welded to the subframe for the sensor rod to bolt onto. Just ignore the bracket.
Strangely... when I was checking it a few years ago, a new subframe with the bracket was about £100 cheaper from Fiat than the one without it.
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Excellent! Thank you for the help Davren! I have a 10ton log splitter - I'm hoping that I can use that to force the bushes in (with plenty of wooden padding on the splitter side obviously!) Time will tell
hi, thanks for all this info - really good. I'm just doing mine. I didnt take a note of the wheel arch ride height - I know it was quite a lot- car looked like it was jacked up at the back, so i guess when puting it all back together- all bolts except the ones thru the bushes - get tightened up, and then raise the axle up until the wheels are at same height ( or as I remember them to be) as before. I see on your Fiat pdf (thanks Shadyman), that Fiat say jack one wheel at a time- is that deffo req'd - or can the whole axle (both wheels effectively ) be raised at once. It seems safer and easier to as one lift ? Then tighten the thru-bush bolts. Will it matter if a I reduce the gap to the wheel arch - as it did seem too high before? Many thanks.
PS thanks also to the brake cable guides, as this helps too. PS - at first I wondered how the hand brake cable wld feed thru the hole on the caliper bracket - but once all loose I could see it is just a guide. My local garage is going to extract the actual bushes, so hopefully all will be ok. But I wld like opinions on the ride height pls guys. PS - are the upper rubber bushes available separately for the shocks?. Oh , I miss my Mareas. Thanks again.
PS thanks also to the brake cable guides, as this helps too. PS - at first I wondered how the hand brake cable wld feed thru the hole on the caliper bracket - but once all loose I could see it is just a guide. My local garage is going to extract the actual bushes, so hopefully all will be ok. But I wld like opinions on the ride height pls guys. PS - are the upper rubber bushes available separately for the shocks?. Oh , I miss my Mareas. Thanks again.
I got in quick and paid for these - never received them. Follow-up emails were not replied to.
I need to replace bushes urgently, so I will probably have to make my own tools.
-Alex
Sorry to hear that Alex. @Shadeyman has not posted on the forum since August 2014. Unlike him not to reply though. Hope he's OK.
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Thanks Davren and yes, I was worried for him as well, as he seemed a really active forum user before I got in touch with him. Then something suddenly changed. Maybe he took the opportunity to have a mental-clear-out (fresh start) after moving house - probably a good thing, although inconvenient timing for me, as he moved the week that I'd sent the money.
I wasn't going to post on the public forum about this, but thought after two years this month, it must be time for one last try (maybe someone else has tools (the disc with three prongs, and the ring) to sell/donate to me
) - then I'll drop it. I promise I don't usually hold a grudge against anyone! I was actually searching for axle-bush info last night when I found that message I quoted - I suppose it touched a nerve, even though it was written so long ago sorry!Meanwhile - in breaking axle-bush news, replacement bushes available here in NZ (from Italy) are actually a different design and construction, with a plastic outer sleeve and rubber without hydraulic fluid inside. This probably makes them a lot easier to install and it is likely that no special tools are needed. The bush design is from the FIAT Albea (a model not sold here). I now have either the option of installing these (cheap, practical) or I could get genuine Stilo bushes from overseas and make/buy/obtain the correct tools.
Thanks,
-Alex
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hes over onto the Volvo forums now but I think his daughter might have kept a stilo.
try joining here to contact him
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=216940&page=2
try joining here to contact him
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=216940&page=2
The outer part of the bush needs to be a solid fit in the axle housings. I would think that if there was a plastic outer sleeve, it would be more likely that the bush could eventually rotate in the housing. I also think that the whole rear suspension was designed around hydrolastic bushes. I wouldn't be happy with solid rubber.
A resourseful chap like yourself should be able to get the old bushes out without any special tools, so you would only need the 3 pronged press piece to install the new ones with. If you make one, bear in mind that the 3 prongs are not equally spaced at 120º. Match the spacing with an old or new bush.
Alternatively, the 3 pronged tool (part number 2000000400) is only about £20 from Fiat. If NZ dealers won't supply tools, Neil ( Sturgess Motor Group ) would probably send one, and the original bushes (part number 51840600) to you.
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noticed someones on ebay now selling rear bush tool
does it look right compared to fiat one ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Stilo-Rear-Axle-Suspension-Bush-Fitting-Install-Garage-Replacement-Tool-/221643507905?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&fits=Model%3AStilo&hash=item339afb88c1
does it look right compared to fiat one ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Stilo-Rear-Axle-Suspension-Bush-Fitting-Install-Garage-Replacement-Tool-/221643507905?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&fits=Model%3AStilo&hash=item339afb88c1
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