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The relay in the rear fuse box, two wires slot in underneath that relay and they are black/green & light Blue/Yellow but can not locate these in the front of the cars fuse boxes
Technical Swapping Electrical Heated Leather Seats Help
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Technical Swapping Electrical Heated Leather Seats Help
There are two relays in the rear fuse box as in your picture in post #13. The large square 30 Amp one (T21) is for the seats and seat heaters. The small oblong 20 Amp one (T22) is for the high level center brake light.
When I asked in post #14 what colour wires go to the rear fuse box?, you posted this list:
The Light Blue/Yellow (Yellow/Blue in your list?) wire comes from ignition activated relay T12 via fuse F52, (both in the dashboard fuse box) and goes to terminal 85 of the large square relay T21 in the rear fuse box. Switching the ignition on activates relay T12 which in turn activates relay T21. It must be connected or the electric seats wouldn't be already working.
There's no mention of a Black/Green wire in your list and I can't see one in your picture of the rear fuse box or on any of the seat/seat heater wiring diagrams.
EDIT: Meant dashboard fuse box, not under bonnet fuse box as I originally posted.
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When I posted the wires coming from the rear fuse box I hadn't removed the fuse box at that time and just looked at the wires coming from the side of it into a loom, when I did remove the fuse box I pulled out the larger relay and found the two wires mentioned coming from the underneath connectors, I have a picture and I'll post it asap, the electric seats work perfectly even the memory function.
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Right connected the funky blue/yellow wire into the front fuse box and nothing every wire for the seats is connected now apart from the elusive black/green from the pic above, I have followed that wire from the donor car into the centre of the donor cars dash and lost it grrr, any help would be fantastic, thanks.
every wire for the seats is connected now apart from the elusive black/green from the pic above, I have followed that wire from the donor car into the centre of the donor cars dash and lost it grrr, any help would be fantastic, thanks.
If you've only just connected the Blue/Yellow wire, I don't understand how the electric seats were already working. The Blue/Yellow wire is needed to activate the square relay that powers both the seats and seat heaters. Without it connected, neither the seats or seat heaters should have worked.
Which terminal of the square relay does the Black/Green wire connect to? The terminal numbers should be marked on the bottom of the relay and will be 30, 85, 86 and 87.
Assume you've checked that the two red 10 Amp fuses F57 and F67 in the rear fuse box are OK?
The Blue/Yellow wire is needed to activate the square relay that powers both the seats and seat heaters. Without it connected, neither the seats or seat heaters should have worked.Which terminal of the square relay does the Black/Green wire connect to? The terminal numbers should be marked on the bottom of the relay and will be 30, 85, 86 and 87.
Assume you've checked that the two red 10 Amp fuses F57 and F67 in the rear fuse box are OK?
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The fuses are both fine, the black/green wire should connect to point 86 of the relay
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No relevance to the quote..
I'm collecting my electric leather seats on Friday - and if I have any trouble I'll be coming to you first
You say it should connect to pin 86. If it does connect to pin 86, then it's the earth wire for the square relay operating coil. It connects to the passenger side front earthing point C20 along with the 3 of the 4 black wires from the seat connectors.
As it's a permanent earth, you could connect it to any earthing point on the car. (The bolt that holds the rear earthing point next to the rear fuse box for example).
Both the Blue/Yellow and this Black/Green wire need to be connected for the electric seats and heaters to work, so I still don't understand how your electric seats were working without both of them connected. Unless you've connected some of the other wiring incorrectly.
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don't know if i've missed this, but where did you put the wire in body computer?
or does it not matter,
It's a pickle to get the seats to work as I spent too many hours tinkering around and found that you have to connect one of the two can lines from the seats to the body computer for them to work, my car is a 1.8 dynamic and the memory seats and mirrors work perfect with no need to change any parts, it caused problems at first but just read the manual
don't know if i've missed this, but where did you put the wire in body computer?
or does it not matter,
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Hi all,
Having both my boyfriend and I reading the full thread we are still ignorant of what goes where
We have connected a single can line to the pink and white wire in 'the brain' and that didn't work. So struggling to decifer what thread #37 means, we tried it with both can lines and yet again nothing.
The pos and neg are connected to power btw.
Please can you help and tell me what we're doing wrong.
About to give up and I only have a few days before I need use of my car again. Short of calling an auto electrician out, I'm baffled!
cheers
Hi all,
Having both my boyfriend and I reading the full thread we are still ignorant of what goes where
We have connected a single can line to the pink and white wire in 'the brain' and that didn't work. So struggling to decifer what thread #37 means, we tried it with both can lines and yet again nothing.
The pos and neg are connected to power btw.
Please can you help and tell me what we're doing wrong.
About to give up and I only have a few days before I need use of my car again. Short of calling an auto electrician out, I'm baffled!
cheers
Re: Humor me, abarth clocks in a dynamic?
My car came with electric seats so I've never retro fitted them. I can only quote from this thread and the guide that Searchy posted.
From the photo Searchy posted in his guide, the Pink/White wire(s) go to the corresponding Pink/White wire in the body computer/fuse box plug. From reading the guide, I believe he spliced them into the existing Pink/White CAN wire.
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Hi all,
Having both my boyfriend and I reading the full thread we are still ignorant of what goes where
We have connected a single can line to the pink and white wire in 'the brain' and that didn't work. So struggling to decifer what thread #37 means, we tried it with both can lines and yet again nothing.
The pos and neg are connected to power btw.
Please can you help and tell me what we're doing wrong.
About to give up and I only have a few days before I need use of my car again. Short of calling an auto electrician out, I'm baffled!
cheers
My car came with electric seats so I've never retro fitted them. I can only quote from this thread and the guide that Searchy posted.
From the photo Searchy posted in his guide, the Pink/White wire(s) go to the corresponding Pink/White wire in the body computer/fuse box plug. From reading the guide, I believe he spliced them into the existing Pink/White CAN wire.
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I had already done pink/white when I asked for help. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
After reading through a Haynes electrical guide I found that I'd have to use BOTH can lines. So after connecting pink/black together we had movement.
Thanks for the help
If anyone needs telling 'in detail' how this was done please PM me
Tar
I had already done pink/white when I asked for help. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
After reading through a Haynes electrical guide I found that I'd have to use BOTH can lines. So after connecting pink/black together we had movement.
Thanks for the help
If anyone needs telling 'in detail' how this was done please PM me
Tar
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If you were to post on this thread "in detail" how it was done, other members could benefit from your information. That's what the forum is for after all, all members sharing information.
If you were to post on this thread "in detail" how it was done, other members could benefit from your information. That's what the forum is for after all, all members sharing information.
Hello, read through this entire guide and "searchy's" but still baffled as to how to connect the drivers side wires to the rear fuse box :S ? I can see the passanger side wires lead directly to the rear fuse box but what about the drivers side ? I did not see how this was originally connected in the donar car as they pulled the wires out for me so any help would be highly appreciated , Thankyou !
The complete wiring diagram for both seats, and seat heaters is shown in post #2 above.
What exactly are you having problems with?
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What exactly are you having problems with?
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Re. the thin Blue/yellow wire. Labeled AG in the wiring diagram.
From post #42 above:
Re. the thin Black/green wire. I believe this is the wire that's incorrectly labeled NZ (Black/purple) in the wiring diagram.
From post # 48 above:
From post #42 above:
Re. the thin Black/green wire. I believe this is the wire that's incorrectly labeled NZ (Black/purple) in the wiring diagram.
From post # 48 above:
Thankyou for the advice Davren; much appreciated. I managed to get everything hooked up, the electric seats so they now move back and forward - however do not heat. Could this be down to the blue and yellow wire not being connected ?
Im struggling to find the blue/yellow wire leading to the relay T12 from the dashboard fuse box, any pointerss ?
!! for those struggling with the can lines, The pink and white wires from both seats must be connected to the pink and white can line coming from the dashboard fusebox. The black and pink can lines from both seats must then be attatched together.
Good Luck
