Opinions guys?

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pa...lo;manufacturer=sprint_booster;sub_category=1

I'm looking to do all the little tit bit mods i can to my engine to just give it the edge it needs,
GSR is being fitted tommorow, i have a full exhaust system with the second cat taken off. Thinking about all the other things i can do, spark plugs? sprint booster?

Is it possible to replace the fuel injectors? Will this make a difference?

After ive done all these mods id love to get it re-mapped and see the outcome over just re-mapping a standard 1.4 engine.

Cheers
Joel

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sounds a bit iffy to me, especially what they say about insurance, its not standard so they have to be told, i wouldnt want to be messing with fly by wire, if toyota can get it so wrong then messing with it might go wrong too?

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Not heard of it before, I'm with Dave on this - smells 'iffy' to me too.

As far as the rest goes, new plugs may help - a thorough service is always good - but no need to change the injectors at this stage, only really need to consider that when you're running a tweaked lump with (perhaps) high lift cams etc and even then only if the fuelling really needs it.
The induction may help a smidgen (watch out for puddles) and the exhaust mods you mention will certainly help the engine out.

But what do you want to gain

Personally, I'd have thought, the very best thing you could do to the 1.4 is turbo it - seems to be working for Fiat

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How expensive can turboing it get though? Don't get me wrong, the first thing i'd want to do is turbo it But people talking around here talk about it costing ALOT. I'd probably be willing to spend £700-£900 turboing it? Could that be done?

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A lot more than that I would have thought.. See what work was involved with the 1.6 turbo that NIkosGR did. Cheaper to get a JTD or Abarth.

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Or look for a Bravo 1.4 T-jet that's been written off and consider dropping that lump in along with the associated wiring - that wiring/ECU etc would represent the biggest headache IMHO of what otherwise would be effectively a 'stock' modification when you consider the Bravo is really just a MK2 Stilo

Could it be done for under a grand? Maybe, but I sincerely doubt it. Could it be done for under 2 grand? Now I reckon it could potentially be done for under 2K...... when you consider (again) that the 1.4 turbo has been persuaded to deliver some serious horsepower in other installations it's very nearly almost tempting

Is it worth doing?

Ah..... almost certainly probably not

Is it cost effective?

Err..... no.

Would you be cheaper buying an Abarth or a JTD?

Oh yes indeed.

Would it be interesting to try as a project?

Oh very much so yes.

Is anyone daft enough to do it?

I really doubt it

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Mr Cousins said:

Opinions guys?

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pa...lo;manufacturer=sprint_booster;sub_category=1

I'm looking to do all the little tit bit mods i can to my engine to just give it the edge it needs,
GSR is being fitted tommorow, i have a full exhaust system with the second cat taken off. Thinking about all the other things i can do, spark plugs? sprint booster?

Is it possible to replace the fuel injectors? Will this make a difference?

After ive done all these mods id love to get it re-mapped and see the outcome over just re-mapping a standard 1.4 engine.

Cheers
Joel

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Waste of time IMHO. It just tricks the ECU into dumping more fuel in the engine. For a few quid more you can get a proper re-map.

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Yellow Peril said:

Waste of time IMHO. It just tricks the ECU into dumping more fuel in the engine. For a few quid more you can get a proper re-map.

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I think that's fair comment, but wasn't there an issue with some of the 1.2 and 1.4 lumps not being able to be re-mapped
I wouldn't argue for the sprint booster, far from it, but if I'm right about issues over remaps the 'cheap' options rapidly diminish

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I was thinking as far as engine mods go i could/have already get/got:

GSR Induction
Full Exhaust System
Uprated Plugs
Run it on some posh oil (using cheap stuff at the minute)

Then any other little bits i could do can be suggested,

THEN a big re-map to kind "put it all in place" if you get my wording?

Any ideas?

Just had my GSR fitted.....

WOW Peter is such a cool guy and im seriously impressed with the GSR, we didnt finish fitting it until 1am and then went out for a quick spin and i literally think i woke every single person up in my county. I love it. He has invited me down to a rolling road meet near stansted airport in 2 weeks time and i'm thinking about making the journey down there for kicks and getting a re-map done by him as i have full confidence in him now to get the most out of my car!

But before i start planning my journey down to London i once again wan't to bring up the topic of "what other 1.4 stilo engine mods can i do?" to make this re-map much more efficient and worthwhile.

Peter said a flush through of the engine would help alot with all new oil, also new higher quality spark plugs, saving all the weight i can from the car. What else can i do before the end of these 2 weeks to make this re-map a quality step in my cars performance.

All suggestions welcome guys and if any of you could elaborate on flush throughs, the best oils and the best spark plugs i'd be very appreciative.

Thanks guys. :worship:

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Peter wouldn't be doing the remap, that would be someone else (unless things have changed of late) Peter would be the 'facilitator'.

I'd have been inclined to have kept this in the other topic myself, it's already been suggested that a thorough service would be a good idea.

Personally, I'd look at the following:

Engine flush:
Moot point in some circles, still worth doing IMHO if you're changing the filter as well. Oils have come on a long way (synthetics and semi-synthetics in particular) since the days of old school tuning - I can remember some really sludgy dirty oils coming out of cars, but these days if the service schedule has been kept up to date and reasonable oil used then truly 'dirty' oil is a rare commodity in an engine. That said, I'd look at a Forte advanced engine flush as part of a thorough service.

Engine oil:
You really can't go wrong with using what the manufacturer recommends, I like Selenia oils - but unless you're buying truly pish oil you can't go wrong with any good quality product in the right viscosity.

Oil filter:
From Fiat - buy OE.

Plugs:
Hmmmmm. I haven't changed plugs on a car for a few years having switched to diesel. I'm not utterly convinced that something like a spltfire or other multi-electrode 'type' plug is as big an advantage in a modern petrol engine as it was in some of my older Lanicas/Fiats. Others might feel differently and I would defer to someone who has the same/similar engine. IMHO, any good quality plug would do.

Throttle body:
Whack some cleaner in there, plenty of info about that on this forum

And finally.......
Only take the car to the remapping session on the fuel you'll be running it on. Oh, and change the fuel filter.

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Thanks mate, what about a new manifold?

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Which one

I'd look at a quality exhaust manifold myself first.

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ABZSTILO said:

Oh, and change the fuel filter.

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I don't think petrol Stilos were ever fitted with fuel filters. A false economy measure by the factory.

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Yellow Peril said:

I don't think petrol Stilos were ever fitted with fuel filters.

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That is correct.

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ABZSTILO said:

Which one

I'd look at a quality exhaust manifold myself first.

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I'm not massively knowledgeable at the performance aspects of cars mate so if you could elaborate that would be awsome.I take it theres more than one manifold? Would i have had a new quality exhaust manifold fitted when i had my exhaust done?

What's the other one?

Where can i gain power from upgrading my manifold/s?

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Threads now merged.

No point posting in one thread that you're going to have GSR fitted and another one to say you've had it fitted.

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Yellow Peril said:

I don't think petrol Stilos were ever fitted with fuel filters. A false economy measure by the factory.

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I have to say that amazes me, I agree entirely - a false economy. I made an assumption that it would, I mean every petrol injection car I've ever owned had a fuel filter fitted.

Mr Cousins said:

I'm not massively knowledgeable at the performance aspects of cars mate so if you could elaborate that would be awsome.I take it theres more than one manifold? Would i have had a new quality exhaust manifold fitted when i had my exhaust done?

What's the other one?

Where can i gain power from upgrading my manifold/s?

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To be honest it would take too long to give a simple answer, a complicated one (about exhausts, engine breathing and exhaust design) would take pages However, you have two manifolds. An inlet manifold and an exhaust manifold. Very generally, a good exhaust manifold (usually an aftermarket product) can yield several horsepower with the right exhaust behind it.

Unless you know you're getting it (and the price is usally a good indicator) then a manifold is not included. Most systems on offer are from the catalytic converter back and although usually better than the OE system offer less performance than they could.

A good google search on exhaust design will give you a grasp

Where to get a performance exhaust manifold for a 1.4 Stilo - I dunno, I've not looked. Maybe Peter could help I think he's had something to do with exhausts for Stilos before

You negate to mention that an Aftermarket manifold will swallow the guys budget straight up. Which just isnt worth it for 2-3bhp.

I know that i really cant say this without being a hypocrite as i am planning to do a few light engine mods to my car. But short of sticking a turbo onto it you will be wasting your money.
I liked the comment of somebody suggesting that you ask Nikos what he found affective. Clearly the great big fcuk off turbo changes the state of play. :devil:

Save your monies dude, have your induction kit for a bit of noisy fun. Concentrate on geting that ice build done and enjoy your car, then when you are a bit older go and buy a car with a bit more power.

This is the exact reason why i went and got my new car. I was looking into engine conversions (£2k), coilovers (£800), Brake conversions (£800), body kit (£1k).
It was just a hell of a lot cheaper to go and get a faster car and then have a little tinker to learn a thing or two. Even then its still an NA engine so im not expecting big things for my £.

Volxstu You need to learn how to read properly, clearly the turbo does make more 'effective' power increases, but I was talking about the amount of work involved in a negative aspect.. tool.