Technical FiatEcuScan diagnostic software

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Ned. You don't need to solder anything to simply connect. I don't think the inteface cable you have bought is VAG COM type, it looks ISO. You need VAG COM and for other tasks an ELM 327 version 1.3

For connecting to airbags, power steering, ABS then you do need to bridge certain pins on the VAG COM cable connector, all explained at the website. If you're no good with a soldering iron then an electrician will be able to do the job quickly for you
 

No,

You need an ELM327 based interface. If you are in the UK look at Gendan, who also sell their stuff on ebay.

http://www.gendan.co.uk/product_ELM327.html

You can get them cheaper on ebay, but half the time they are clones of older revisions of the ELM327 chip..
 
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A technical point to note about the Gendan unit, which I have and works well, is that it does not use an ELM327 chip but uses a PIC18F2480 microcontroller (with UART/USART and CAN interfaces), FTDI TF232BL USB to UART interface chip and MCP2551L CAN tranceiver chips.

The ELM functions are implemented in the microcontroller.
 
A technical point to note about the Gendan unit, which I have and works well, is that it does not use an ELM327 chip but uses a PIC18F2480 microcontroller (with UART/USART and CAN interfaces), FTDI TF232BL USB to UART interface chip and MCP2551L CAN tranceiver chips.

The ELM functions are implemented in the microcontroller.

I queried that with Dean at Gendan some while ago. Got this reply:

"Please be assured that you definitely have a genuine ELM327 1.3 unit - the
pic may be missing the label - as these are surface mounted, the labels can
unfortunately come away during the board wash after the boards are soldered.

The PIC number you mention can be checked on ELM's 327 Quick reference guide
here (page 5 below the table):
http://www.elmelectronics.com/DSheets/ELM327QS.pdf "

It would appear that an ELM327 is actualy a PIC18F2480 that's been programed by ELM.

On ELM's website, all their ICs including the 28 pin ELM327 series are shown with just a paper label stuck on top.
 
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Thats why there are so many chinese clones around. Everything ELM Electronics produce is based on one PIC or other.

When they program the PIC, they program it and burn the internal fuses which prevents the flash memory being read.

The cloners de-cap the PIC and bypass the fuses to allow them to read the flash and write it to another PIC, hence the clones. The bad clones are the earlier ELM firmwares but just with edited version numbers.

Ive seen these services offered for around £800-1000 on some EE forums in the past when source has been lost.

Dan
 
this software is well worth it's 50 euro in the full version considering it offers a lot of features of the original Examiner tester with very common (and cheap) hardware....
 
Been reading through this thread and am currently waiting for my ELM327 cable to arrive. I have an abarth stilo and the engine management light has just come on, through reading a few of the posts its a bit confusing, in order to read fault codes on the abarth do I require the paid version? I'm not worried about the cost, if anything I'll probably buy the full version anyway but just out of curiosity? Also the cable I've bought comes with a few bits of software I think, will these work with the abarth at all?

I'm afraid that you need to purchase the full version for the ME3.1 ECU that's in the Abarth but on the upside, you can now connect to just about all of the ECU's in the Abarth now including:

The Engine ECU (ELM)
The Body Computer (ELM)
The Parking Sensor ECU (ELM)
The Selespeed ECU (ELM)
The Dashboard ECU (ELM)
The Steering ECU (Adapted VAGCOM)
The ABS ECU (Adapted VAGCOM)
The Airbag ECU (Adapted VAGCOM)
Service Reset (ELM)

Good value for €49 I reckon! Mine will be bought shortly... (y)
 
Sorry, let me revise that:

The Engine ECU (ELM & VAGCOM)
The Body Computer (ELM)
The Parking Sensor ECU (ELM)
The Selespeed ECU (ELM)
The Dashboard ECU (ELM)
The Steering ECU (Adapted VAGCOM)
The ABS ECU (Adapted VAGCOM)
The Airbag ECU (Adapted VAGCOM)
Service Reset (ELM)
 
Thanks to SIXPOTMAN and Mike West from Gendan I now have a genuine ELM v1.4 interface.
So, there will be support for ELM v1.4 and hopefully full support for all modules (including airbags) with this interface in next release.

Yani
 
How could i solder in a switch into my cable?? ive read yani's site but cant seem to figure it out lol im pants with electronics :p

ive connected pins 1 - 7 - 9 but it says use a switch for pin 3?

Thanks :)
 
Fiat ECUscan Free diagnostic software connection problems

Hi, Im using fiat ECUscan and a modified KKL cable

Pin 3 linked to pin 7

[Firstly thanks to the publisher (yanni i believe) for his good work in producing this software]

Ive managed to connect to the engine ecu successfully diagnosed and solved my MOT emissions failure with a new EGR valve (anyone with the same problem who want help please feel free to email)

Now for the airbag.... for some reason when i try to connect to the airbag i get no ecu response??? (Yes ive soldered pin 3 to 7 and checked it with a multimeter) after trying a couple of times it then begins to fails to access the comm port and i can no longer get the engine ecu shortly after fiat ecuscan crashes. is anyone else having these problems? is it because its a cheap cable (it does conect to the engine???)? or is it a software problem?

Any help appreciated the constant airbag beeping is driving me nuts (even though i discovered you can remove the warning from the trip computer by pressing mode).

Thanks
 
Re: Fiat ECUscan Free diagnostic software connection problems

It's not just a case of soldering pin 3 to 7
you need to isolate the original engine pin 7
as well.

John

That is correct. I will give a translation here for use with an 8 pin DIP witch (4 swithes). No pictures.

There are many VAG cables out there, and they do differ in layout inside. But they do the same job.

You will need:

- Multimeter with audio function (beep).
- Microswitch with 4 switches.
- An old 40 pin ATA cable. I used an 80 pin cable, but the wires inside are very thin.
- Very small wirecutter.
- Small piece of circuit board, full of holes - cut to shape.
- Soldering iron.
- Stanley knife.

1. Locate pin 7 at the front. These are numbered. Turn on you multimeter to the audio function. Hold one plug to pin 7 (outside), and drag the other plug over the hardwires on the inside of the cable until you hear it beep. You have located pin 7 on the inside - which was not very obvious on my cable.

2. Cut this hardwire at the middle, leaving enough space on both ends for soldering.

3. Locate pin 1, 3 and 9 (if I remember correctly) on the inside.

4. Mount the microswitch to the circuit board and cut the plastic cover of the cable to make a smooth install. :D

5. Cut 4 wires from the ATA cable and solder them (separately) from pin 1, 3, 7 and 9 and to the "in" side of the microswitch.

6. Cut 4 new pieces from the ATA cable and solder them to the other end of the microswitch. (Where signal goes out when the lever is "on").

7. Remove some insulation on the 4 ends and twist them together. Solder the whole lot back to pin 7 on the cable. Make sure you solder it to the circuit side of pin 7, not pin 7 itself.

8. Put the whole thing together, making sure no wire/metal touches anything it shouldn't.

You now have a fully functional cable with the possibility of selecting 4 different ECUs.
 
hi, ive isolated pin seven and now conected to pin 3 but still no ecu response, when i switch to 1-7-9 ecu connection is fine to the engine. Any ideas? is it because i have a cheap cable or is it software? is there anything ive missed?

has anyone managed to connect to MY99 airbags (on stilo 02 1.9JTD?), if so where did u get your cable & what version of ecu scan are you using?

thanks :) maybe i should just disconnect the airbag beeper and stick a cushion on the steering wheel, might be a bit too tempting for long motorway drives tho :(
 
Ok im officially stumped...

Ive wired the cable with a switch between 7c and 3 and 1,7 & 9 (c = on the circuit board). I can connect to the ecu (although it says latency too high), but when i switch to airbag i get no ECU response shortly followed by a fiatecuscan crash (ive tried unplugging everything between the switch).

Is this a software glitch yani? or could it be the cable or somthing else?? is there other software i could try for MY99 airbags?

How long for the V1.4 ELM support, will this do my airbags, should i wait?

Please help.... , im not going to let these airbags get the better of me! :bang::bang::bang::bang:

Thanks
TBS
 
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