(G) Finally the rattle is gone! JTD owners read here

Could always do with knowing a good one in Manc. If you could let me know the name of the company and the address that would be great.

he's just off chester road, as you come out of town, after the junction with the mancunian way going underneath and the church on the corner, there's a left going off towards Chorlton way, as the road peels off go left immediately the garage is there. There's an MOT centre and a valeters next door.

if you have the rattle take it down, he'll fix it for you.

update on the rattle...

the problem is a rubber part on the top of the mount which has hardened, the guy showed me where, i'll post a pic when I get round to it.
What he's done is put more rubber in to make it tight.

The car is much much quieter when cold... an easy fix for what seems to be a common problem

Gimme the picture, as soon as possible, for God's sake!
plz

Thanks matey, I'm trying to remember if that's Chorlton Rd., or Upper Chorlton Rd.

Quick update - I've taken the car to a local garage today to get the mounts checked, as I've noticed there is some vibration and a slight clunking/slapping sound on moderate accelerating and deccelerating. The mechanic agreed with me on the road test, and looking up on the ramps found some play in the bottom two "stabliser" mounts; he wasn't 100% that this could be causing the problems but has gone away to find a price from Fiat to replace these parts (as there appears to be no Unipart equivalent). Would anyone have any thoughts on if this might be the source of said rattle? Thanks a million in advance!!

just thought i'd give an update... the rattle has unfortunately returned, the rubber is a good short term fix but will not last. Mechanic says what is needed is a new gear box mount.

Do you mean 'new' in the sense of a replacement one.

or is he suggesting it needs redesigning?

I´ve heard from somebody in the spanish forum that new gearbox mountings are different design than fitted in fabric...

I´ve ordered a new one for replacing mine, and let´s see if it fixes the rattle...

You heard well. There is a new design of gearbox mountings fitted in the '04 or later stilos. It has a larger rubber part that absorbs the vibrations from the engine more effectively, thus reducing the rattle in the cabin.

If I'm not mistaking the part number for the new gearbox mount (the one just off and under the battery) is 51711216. The replacement of the mount with the new one should solve the problem.

That's rather odd then - as just reading this thread it seems the problem is most pronounced on 04 and later Stilos i.e. less common on early models.

Perhaps the new mount is so effective at absorbing vibrations that it fails very quickly in the life of the car hence making it somewhat counter productive

gearbox mount - old



and the new one



As you can see the new one has a larger vibration absorbing surface, however, the question of the quality of rubber still remains. If it hardens fast, it can't absorb vibrations good enough

good investigation that

price on our ancient eper is coming up as £31.41 for the part. any ideas on labour charges?

as its already looking like im going to live with the rattle

suppose i can get it done when she goes in for the steering rack change, as then they'll already be fiddling in that area, hmmmm


EDIT: i was quoted £78 just labour or £125 all inclusive

let her rattle on, it gives here character

Where can I buy this part from? I've been meaning to put a photo of the part online, that is exactly where the problem is.

Can I ring fiat and quote the part number?

Ahhh the good old engine mounts...

I have just solved this problem in my Stilo. I had to replace three of the 4. N/S, O/S (gearbox) and the O/S Stabilising one. The engine used to clunk really bad and the rattle was driving me mad.

Part no's Are:

O/S Stabilising (Underneath) - 46781893 - £26.24 + VAT from Fiat
N/S - 51711216 - £66.78 + VAT from Fiat
O/S - 51776846 - £36.02 + VAT from Fiat

I have no photos but i did the work myself...the most I have done before this is the brake discs and Pads two months ago.

The underside Mount was fitted poorly in the factory and the rubber perished...gettin git off was a nightmare due to it being threaded wrong...Just jack the car up and they are easliy found.

The the largest mount bolts to the Engine with 3 bolts and the coolant container sits on the top. Remove the container, drop the screen wash bottle down and unbolt the black box. this will let you get to the Mount. Dont forget to put a jack and a plank of wood under the engine to stop it from dropping.

The remaining mount requires the battery, its housing removed and the engine to be lowered on the Jack before you can get to all the bolts attaching the mount to the chassis. This mount is visibly bigger as in the pics above but still fits nicely.

It took me 3.5hours to do the work on Saturday (25th Apr). The Garage where I got the parts from is Ancaster Fiat in Welling, London. They wanted £178 labour charges to fit them. Good saving I think and it has cured the rattle and the knocking.

Very useful post

On the basis that all 3 mounts are unlikely to fail at the same time can you comment on which you think was the most worn/damaged mount i.e the one most likely causing the vibration?