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Hi everybody :D

I want to know how often you change your oil, filter and what oil do you use?


I´m changing oil and filter, every 10,000kms and using Motul 5w40 X-Cess 8100 Synthetic Oil on 2003 1.8 16V.

I´m doing it right with the type of oil and the time of change?
 
Hi everybody :D

I want to know how often you change your oil, filter and what oil do you use?


I´m changing oil and filter, every 10,000kms and using Motul 5w40 X-Cess 8100 Synthetic Oil on 2003 1.8 16V.

I´m doing it right with the type of oil and the time of change?
If it's a fully synthetic then you shouldn't need to change so often - although wont do any harm if you do.

I'd have thought 20Km (12k miles) or 12 mths (whichever comes first) would be OK (y)
 
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If it's a fully synthetic then you shouldn't need to change so often - although wont do any harm if you do.

I'd have thought 20Km (12k miles) or 12 mths (whichever comes first) would be OK (y)


(y) thanks for the answer.

Here in Guatemala the Fiat dealer told me than I need to change the oil every 5K Kms (3125 miles) lol, I think they only want more money :rolleyes:
 
Perhaps he's used to cheap mineral oil which should be changed more often :)

Far better to use the very best oil you can buy but only change it at the proper service interval (y)
 
At the moment, I only get it changed by the dealership every 12 months as I struggle to do 6000 miles a year. I obvioulsly check the levels every now and again, but the 1.2 uses bugger all oil anyway :)
 
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You'll find almost as many opinions on here about oil as there are members! Go for a good fully synthetic and change it and the filter every 6 to 10K and you won't go far wrong.
 
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i'm changing oil every 6000 miles on my abarth

i've heard the opinion that fiat recommended service intervals of 10 to 12k for the abarth are not realistic - by this time even the best oil will be well broken up
thats the reason there are so many 2.4 engines with failed bottom ends:rolleyes:
 
My Panda goes in for its second service some time this week and its only done about 3k since the first one ..never the less short trips and much stop start town driving necessitates the annual service..after this one I will be doing all the servicing myself using Selena oil from fiat ..and I will be doing them at 6k and not 12k as given in the service documents..gearbox oil change will come at 30k again using selena oils..just as I did with the stilo..
 
...by this time even the best oil will be well broken up
thats the reason there are so many 2.4 engines with failed bottom ends:rolleyes:
A top quality fully synthetic will easily outlast a lessor oil (say a semi).

If you want to change such an oil more often than the service interval specifies then that's your choice and obviously wont do any harm.

However, if you mean you intend to use a cheaper oil and then change it twice as often as the service internal specifies then that to me is madness :(

Far better to spend the extra money on a good oil to start with and only change as recommended :)
 
A top quality fully synthetic will easily outlast a lessor oil (say a semi).

If you want to change such an oil more often than the service interval specifies then that's your choice and obviously wont do any harm.

However, if you mean you intend to use a cheaper oil and then change it twice as often as the service internal specifies then that to me is madness :(

Far better to spend the extra money on a good oil to start with and only change as recommended :)

No this is not what i meant and i totally agree with you that this would be madness.
I'm using Mobil1 Super S semi synthetic whitch isn't cheap at all.

The other thing i've got to say is that my bottom end failed when i had Castrol Edge fully synthetic in and was servicing it every 10k.
As far as i remember Stu also used good oil - Castrol Magnatec and his engine failed - the man can speak for himself and say otherwise but my guess is that he serviced it every 10-12k aswell.

I would say that with changing oil should be like with changing cambelt - every one(well most of people) change it well before recommended interval becouse no one knows when it will fail.
 
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The other thing i've got to say is that my bottom end failed when i had Castrol Edge fully synthetic in and was servicing it every 10k.
That's interesting :chin:

Did anyone investigate the cause?

Bottom end failure would normally be associated with poor maintenance and neglect (running out of oil being the most common) and you certainly don't normally associate it with using a very high quality oil :confused:
 
Did anyone investigate the cause?

Bottom end failure would normally be associated with poor maintenance and neglect (running out of oil being the most common) and you certainly don't normally associate it with using a very high quality oil :confused:

No, at that time when facing a hefty bill for a rebuilt i didn't want to spend any more money for investigations. But i asked them to examine the engine for any more damage. They said that despite having 79k on the clock the engine was in brilliant state - no signs of oil strvation at all - no wonder as i was checking the oil level every week. It's was just one bearing that nearly vanished, all other were ok.
I'm not saying that it was v. high quality oil that caused it, i'm just saying that EVERY oil has got it's limited life - it will break up. It just depends on many conditions when.
You can't say that it will definately last for 12k miles, but it will more certainly last for 6k miles. Thats my point.
 
They said that despite having 79k on the clock the engine was in brilliant state - no signs of oil strvation at all - no wonder as i was checking the oil level every week. It's was just one bearing that nearly vanished, all other were ok.
I'm not saying that it was v. high quality oil that caused it, i'm just saying that EVERY oil has got it's limited life - it will break up. It just depends on many conditions when.
You can't say that it will definately last for 12k miles, but it will more certainly last for 6k miles. Thats my point.
I hear what you're saying but I still don't follow how this relates to your engine failure? If there was no sign of poor lubrication in the engine then why do you seem to blame yourself for not changing the oil more frequently than the recommended interval. Do you really think it wouldn't have failed if you had :confused:

It's only conjecture I know, but there must be many reasons why the bearing shell failed. A tiny fragment of metal or other body could have lodged into the oil feed to the bearing and failure would still then occur no matter how recently the oil had been changed. In fact, you'd do better to point your finger at the oil filter rather than the oil if something like that had happened. Then you have considerations of metal fatigue etc.

You could even turn turn this whole discussion on it's head and argue that your engine was destined to fail and might well have failed a lot sooner had you not maintained regular servicing with a top oil brand etc :chin:

I'll certainly agree on one point though - changing the oil more frequently than recommended is never going to do any harm :)
 
I generally have the oil changed every 6k miles on my JTD, semi-synthetic goes in and the last oil that went in the car was Selenia Turbo Diesel which my local non-franchise garage sourced at 'the right price'.

No particular reason I have it changed at 6k-ish miles other than a strong desire to see the engine last...... so I take care of its servicing as though it were something more 'exotic' ;)

As a sceptic of most modern servicing schedules (particularly timing belt replacement intervals) I suppose I spend an above average amount on keeping things 'sweet' but although nothing is certain it gives me some assurance things should be ok.......:worship:
 
I think it is optimal change oil with oil filter every 10 000 km or every year.It is good for your engine and it isn´t cost very much.But it depends on where you drive.If in the city the timer between oil changes could be shorter or if you you drive in the higways or long distances you could change oil after 20 000 km.
 
I hear what you're saying but I still don't follow how this relates to your engine failure? If there was no sign of poor lubrication in the engine then why do you seem to blame yourself for not changing the oil more frequently than the recommended interval.
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Well, becouse it might have contributed to the damage.

It's only conjecture I know, but there must be many reasons why the bearing shell failed. A tiny fragment of metal or other body could have lodged into the oil feed to the bearing and failure would still then occur no matter how recently the oil had been changed. In fact, you'd do better to point your finger at the oil filter rather than the oil if something like that had happened. Then you have considerations of metal fatigue etc.
Yes, but also it might have been temporarly blocked by black sludge that builds up in the engine when the oil gets older.
You will prabobly say that i could have had the engine flushed on every service, BUT i think that it's much better to change the oil/filter more frequently and prevent the excess sludge build up rather than going for engine flush every 12k miles after it's been running for the last say 4kmiles with the risk of channels blocked.

You could even turn turn this whole discussion on it's head and argue that your engine was destined to fail and might well have failed a lot sooner had you not maintained regular servicing with a top oil brand etc :chin:
Right, just to make things clear - i never said a thing against using the highest quality oils, and never said that high quality oil contributed to my engine failure.
So people, always use the best oil you can afford basically and change it as often as you think is reasonable!

And Argo, ok lets end this discussion, becouse it seems to me that the only thing you're arguing is my insisting on more frequent services.
I totally agree with BeaveR above.
 
Palio 1,6-16V, 2000 model: oil change, Castrol RS 0W40 full synthetic, every 7500 KM's together with Fram oilfilter. (that's about 3-4X a year).

Fiorino 1,7 Diesel Pick-Up, 1991 model: oil change, Castrol GTD 10W40 semi synthetic, at every 7500 KM's, with Fram oilfilter, also about 3-4X a year.
 
And Argo, ok lets end this discussion, becouse it seems to me that the only thing you're arguing is my insisting on more frequent services.
I totally agree with BeaveR above.
Sure, I agree on that (y)

Don't mind me - I just get a little touchy on discussions of expensive engine oils - and if you check what I'm using then you'll know what I mean :D
 
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Sure, I agree on that (y)

Don't mind me - I just get a little touchy on discussions of expensive engine oils - and if you check what I'm using then you'll know what I mean :D

I s there a particular reason why you use 0w-30 or is that what was recommended for your car only the grade of oil recommended for my 150bhp is 5w-40 just looking at my handbook would you believe timing belt change 150000km (93000mile) or 5year and first oil change 30000km and then 60000km and so on
 
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