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Old 23-07-2008   #16
 
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Re: How often do you change oil and what oil do you use?

I think it is optimal change oil with oil filter every 10 000 km or every year.It is good for your engine and it isnīt cost very much.But it depends on where you drive.If in the city the timer between oil changes could be shorter or if you you drive in the higways or long distances you could change oil after 20 000 km.
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I hear what you're saying but I still don't follow how this relates to your engine failure? If there was no sign of poor lubrication in the engine then why do you seem to blame yourself for not changing the oil more frequently than the recommended interval.
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Well, becouse it might have contributed to the damage.

It's only conjecture I know, but there must be many reasons why the bearing shell failed. A tiny fragment of metal or other body could have lodged into the oil feed to the bearing and failure would still then occur no matter how recently the oil had been changed. In fact, you'd do better to point your finger at the oil filter rather than the oil if something like that had happened. Then you have considerations of metal fatigue etc.
Yes, but also it might have been temporarly blocked by black sludge that builds up in the engine when the oil gets older.
You will prabobly say that i could have had the engine flushed on every service, BUT i think that it's much better to change the oil/filter more frequently and prevent the excess sludge build up rather than going for engine flush every 12k miles after it's been running for the last say 4kmiles with the risk of channels blocked.

You could even turn turn this whole discussion on it's head and argue that your engine was destined to fail and might well have failed a lot sooner had you not maintained regular servicing with a top oil brand etc
Right, just to make things clear - i never said a thing against using the highest quality oils, and never said that high quality oil contributed to my engine failure.
So people, always use the best oil you can afford basically and change it as often as you think is reasonable!

And Argo, ok lets end this discussion, becouse it seems to me that the only thing you're arguing is my insisting on more frequent services.
I totally agree with BeaveR above.
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Re: How often do you change oil and what oil do you use?

Palio 1,6-16V, 2000 model: oil change, Castrol RS 0W40 full synthetic, every 7500 KM's together with Fram oilfilter. (that's about 3-4X a year).

Fiorino 1,7 Diesel Pick-Up, 1991 model: oil change, Castrol GTD 10W40 semi synthetic, at every 7500 KM's, with Fram oilfilter, also about 3-4X a year.
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And Argo, ok lets end this discussion, becouse it seems to me that the only thing you're arguing is my insisting on more frequent services.
I totally agree with BeaveR above.
Sure, I agree on that

Don't mind me - I just get a little touchy on discussions of expensive engine oils - and if you check what I'm using then you'll know what I mean
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Re: How often do you change oil and what oil do you use?

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Sure, I agree on that

Don't mind me - I just get a little touchy on discussions of expensive engine oils - and if you check what I'm using then you'll know what I mean
I s there a particular reason why you use 0w-30 or is that what was recommended for your car only the grade of oil recommended for my 150bhp is 5w-40 just looking at my handbook would you believe timing belt change 150000km (93000mile) or 5year and first oil change 30000km and then 60000km and so on
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Re: How often do you change oil and what oil do you use?

Usually semi syn. no more viscous than 5W - 30, especially regarding Fiat hyd. tappets. Changed at no more than 6k miles, not because the oil has deteriorated , but the standard of filtration is quite poor, so the oil is carrying lots of damaging particles.
So if someone could recommend a decent filter I would be happy to let it go to say 10k.
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Re: How often do you change oil and what oil do you use?

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I s there a particular reason why you use 0w-30 or is that what was recommended for your car only the grade of oil recommended for my 150bhp is 5w-40
It was recommended by Castrol and Nationwide Autocentres offered it as an oil upgrade with 12 months free top ups for just Ģ25 extra (on a standard service).

I was really impressed as startup clatter basically vanished and oil consumption is close to zero with no oil leaks. The engine revs like you wouldn't believe The only thing I was a bit disappointed in was I didn't notice an improvement in mpg (although that could be due to other factors)

I'm on my 3rd year with it now
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Re: How often do you change oil and what oil do you use?

Every 4000 miles or 6 Months which ever comes first. Oil used is Selenia WR.
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Re: How often do you change oil and what oil do you use?

i need some oil for the 1.4 16v active sport..

what can you guys recommend?
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Re: How often do you change oil and what oil do you use?

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Every 4000 miles or 6 Months which ever comes first. Oil used is Selenia WR.
costly. The old debate is gonna start again I can feel it in me bones....
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Re: How often do you change oil and what oil do you use?

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Right, just to make things clear - i never said a thing against using the highest quality oils, and never said that high quality oil contributed to my engine failure.
So people, always use the best oil you can afford basically and change it as often as you think is reasonable!
What size engine did you have?

I ask because I had a 1.8 and had a conrod piss out the side of the block. The warrenty engineer tried to blame it on oil starvation, but I compiled a technical report and they agreed with me; it was down to a faulty manufacturing defect. However, Fiat still maintain that it was down to oil starvation (despite my conrod showing no signs that this is true)

What was the decided failure in the end?
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