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Old 05-05-2008   #16
 
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Re: Fitted my Xenons..Heres How

personally i wouldnt put aftermarket xenons unless they come from the manufacturer. One reason is that the halogen reflector is not designed to be used with a xenon blub resulting in dissipation of light all over the place blinding the other driver. If you guys see a stilo with xenon or any other car there is a totally different lens covering the front of the lamp.Also there is a chance of interference with the electrics since the electricity is boosted to thousands of volts, in addition to the delay for the xenons to turn on right away.


Here is aftermarket xenon which is all over the place



Here is with halogen and see how the light cuts off on the top


Now see with a proper xenon light bulb housing from the manufacturer




http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/lights/139655_web.pdf
http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/lights/159492_web.pdf
http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/lights/159496_web.pdf
http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/lights/159497_web.pdf
http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/lights/176157_web.pdf
http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/lights/222580_web.pdf
http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/lights/809-669.pdf
http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/lights/BadBlueBulbs.pdf
http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/lights/causesGlare.pdf
http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/lights/causesGlare.pdf
http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/lights/PAL2001-akashi.pdf
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Ok, any chance this can be made into a guide - you will also need to use the Forum attachment facility for the pics, NOT the Gallery NOR a photobucket site.

I will also be able to move across any comments from this thread, once done, then lose this thread totally
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personally i wouldnt put aftermarket xenons unless they come from the manufacturer. One reason is that the halogen reflector is not designed to be used with a xenon blub resulting in dissipation of light all over the place blinding the other driver. If you guys see a stilo with xenon or any other car there is a totally different lens covering the front of the lamp.Also there is a chance of interference with the electrics since the electricity is boosted to thousands of volts, in addition to the delay for the xenons to turn on right away.
thats the case with 'old' filtered glass lenses, the ones with lots of lines in them, and not 'clear' plastic lenses.

i havent at all noticed a difference in the stilo xenon lens, nor on a renault laguna
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i havent at all noticed a difference in the stilo xenon lens, nor on a renault laguna
I thought all members with factory fit Xenons reported their headlamp reflector was quite different to Stilo halogen headlamps

For starters, you lose the fog light from the lamp assembly and I presume there's a reason for that
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I thought all members with factory fit Xenons reported their headlamp reflector was quite different to Stilo halogen headlamps

For starters, you lose the fog light from the lamp assembly and I presume there's a reason for that
You can almost guarentee that the halogen bulb reflector is not correct for a xenon bulb as the HID arc and a halogen filament are in different positions and are different shapes...
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Re: Fitted my Xenons..Heres How

I didnt need to drill anything anywhere. there are only two very small thin wire which have to go through the casing. and they actualy fit past it when closing the casing with no problem at all.

and as for turning it to a guide. is it worth it. or better to just leave it here? as it is still findable using 'Search'
i dont mind either way. as long as people find it helpful.
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Without wanting to contradict you Coyle...i was able to change the indicators - (not tried the fogs) without removing the clusters...maybe some of my engine is missing!

hmm your xenons look very nice....how much did they set you back and does it illuminate the roadbetter at night?
must of been a tight squeeze. i wouldn't fancy trying it..if i wanted to keep all my fingers lol

the kit was £75 delivered. and the road illumination is much better. the colour makes alot of difference. can see much further
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must of been a tight squeeze. i wouldn't fancy trying it..if i wanted to keep all my fingers lol

the kit was £75 delivered. and the road illumination is much better. the colour makes alot of difference. can see much further

LOL, i must have small hands!

Nice one mate thanks for the information...I will look into doing this when my current bulbs blow.
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LOL, i must have small hands!

Nice one mate thanks for the information...I will look into doing this when my current bulbs blow.
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and as for turning it to a guide. is it worth it. or better to just leave it here? as it is still findable using 'Search'
i dont mind either way. as long as people find it helpful.
Yes, this section is not to be used for Guides, that is what the Guides section is for
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I thought all members with factory fit Xenons reported their headlamp reflector was quite different to Stilo halogen headlamps

For starters, you lose the fog light from the lamp assembly and I presume there's a reason for that
To clarify, I have factory fit Xenons on my JTD. Dipped beam has a patterned lenses in front of the bulbs, which take up space in the lamp cluster leaving no room for front fogs below the indicator. You also loose the headlamp level adjuster buttons to the right of the steering wheel as xenons are self leveling, but gain headlamp washers - legal requirement I believe!

The collar on the indicator stalk has an A - automatic position to activate the daylight sensor switching of the dipped beam. Not sure if this is Xenon only or a general option with either type of headlights. You cant use main beam on Auto though, have to turn the collar through off & sidelights to the other dipped beam position to get main beam!

Other thing I discovered when upgrading mains to Extreme +80's is that they're H7's and NOT H1's per handbook etc! Yes Xenon's are on Dipped beam only, main beam is just a standard bulb and mine had 'yellowed' in their 3.5 - 4 years fitted to the car.

20 months & 33+ K on would comment that the beam pattern is so clear and crisp on dipped beam with the factory Xenons that front fogs are of little consequence or value. Uprating your main beam is essential though as stock H7's mains look pathetic versus factory Xenons. I went Phillips Extreme +80%'s which get the Auto Express and complement the factory Xenons very well but would also consider Osram Nightbreakers as a more cost effective alternative.

Previous 1.6 had standard front lights and I uprated dipped & mains with Halfords Brilliance +50%'s, again highly rated by Auto Express. The difference is +50% (best available Autumn '05 when fitted) on the 1.6 gave a lot more light to illuminate the road ahead but the JTD's Xenon's subtley pick out detail at an amazing range without flooding the road with light giving much more clarity. The Extreme 80's add a lot of light in between & ahead of the Xenons

Nice guide/thread thought coyle... will no doubt refer to it when I get round to fitting fresh sidelight bulds which have been in my garage forever! 2 on nearside discoloured/dim for some reason
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I havent upgraded my full beam or fogs at this time. but with the xenons on, the fogs make basically no dofference, and full beam is only higher, so again not a massive difference.
one thing i have noticed is I can have the xenons and fogs on at the same time. or xenons and full beams. but if i try and put all 3 on then the xenons(dipped beam) turns off. is this the case with the standard dipped beam as i never noticed it before? or is this something which has just started happening with the new HID's?
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Re: Fitted my Xenons..Heres How

Summing up the posts from this thread it seems Coyle has produced a nice guide on how to change headlamp bulbs without buying a box of sticky plasters but unfortunately has gone on to show how to make your Stilo completely illegal

Some of the HID kits available, typically off eBay, look decidedly dodgy. Reading some of the (bad) feedback seems to indicate that companies in China produce packaging containing well known branded logos which are nothing but copies so it's easy to see how people get conned.
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