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Old 03-11-2005   #31
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Re: After market Cruise control

Don't think the Student Loan will stretch to another £200, but it would be cool, seeing as I'm always up and down the M5 going from Uni (Warwick) to home (glorious Torquay).

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Ok I also thought about this, but stalk and cover would come to about £200. Bloody irritating since I had a new set of stalks put on the car under warranty a few months ago, should have asked for the cruise control ones (think they are the same price!) DRAT!

EDIT: Oh and Chris, to remove it (I can check eLEARN when I get home, dossing at Uni at the mo (skipped a lecture )), you have to remove the battery to deactivate AirBag system, remove steering wheel & cowls, take off switch unit and replace.
Thanks, I was stupidly just going to try to unscrew the bottom part, forgot about the airbag!

I'm not so sure about this now, might be a bit beyond me.
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Re: After market Cruise control

Did anyone actually ever retrofit the Cruise Control column stalk and get it working??
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Re: After market Cruise control

Well I did and it works . My car was predisposed as it has ESP, so the connector was already there!

The only problem is is that the light on the dash won't come on; my local FIAT garage plugged the Examiner in, and they forced the light to come on, but it won't go on with the program. Apart from that it all works fine.

Anyone (i.e. a Tekkie) know what menu on the Examiner it's in?
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how much did the stalks cost you
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£15.51 including postage

Got them off ebay though so chances of them reappearing are slim. However, the Alfa 147 stalk may work as it's the same connector and looks like the same fitment to the stalk controls, and thats £40. Is SLIGHTLY different in shape so can't guarntee the fit on the plastic shrouding.

Although it depends if your car is prewired; apparently all Stilo's fitted with ESP are, if not then you'll have some wiring to do!
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hi guys iv just aquired the above (genuine fiat) i have looked behind my steering colum for the connecter for the cruise control and it is not there. i was wundering if any 1 had traced the wires from the connecter to see were they go and if it would be posible to run new wires so i could fit

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Re: cruise control

Right then (I was going to make a guide about this but I'm gonna need time to write that one up!), you need to check to see if you have this connector:

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It's the one hanging to the left

If that's not there, let me know and we'll move on to the next step .
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Re: cruise control

Ok next step (stripey has no connector!).

Go into the engine bay, remove the battery cover and hunt around for a brown connector with 4 wires (see attached photos). Let me know if you have it or not; have a good look because it'll make the job simpler!!!

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Re: cruise control

yep got that wat next
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Re: cruise control

Emigrate to a country with straight roads, no road works or traffic lights so you can use your cruise control
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Re: cruise control

Ok next step is to feed a wire from the steering column into the engine bay near the battery compartment. There is a bulkhead wire conduit on the drivers side A-Pillar I believe. The wire will be need to be 4-pin (2 sets of speaker cable should be ok). Please let me know your engine cc so that I can give you the correct pin out configuration!

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its 1.4
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Re: cruise control

Originally Posted by rroope
Ok next step is to feed a wire from the steering column into the engine bay near the battery compartment. There is a bulkhead wire conduit on the drivers side A-Pillar I believe. The wire will be need to be 4-pin (2 sets of speaker cable should be ok). Please let me know your engine cc so that I can give you the correct pin out configuration!

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doin that now. wat would the next step be. do i not need a connecter block the same as the 1 in the steering colum and 1 that connects to the brown 1 in the battery casing
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Re: cruise control

Originally Posted by stripey stilo
doin that now. wat would the next step be. do i not need a connecter block the same as the 1 in the steering colum and 1 that connects to the brown 1 in the battery casing
Basically, the situation is is that your Stilo is semi-predisposed. By that, what I mean is that these 4 cables are coming from the Engine Node, and are the feed for the Cruise Control stalk (without the +12V feed). For vehicles with ESP, this would be connected to the opposing brown connector and taken up into the steering column. However, seeing as that isn't the case, you'll need to hardwire it.

You can either chop the connector off (as long as it only has 4 wires going in, there isn't any other useage for it), or wire in-line to keep the original (yet useless) wiring in tact. The connections are as follows:

D4B (Brown Connector) ------> H7 (Cruise Control Stalk)
Pin A02 ------> Pin 1 (Green) RESUME
Pin A03 ------> Pin 6 (Orange/White) SPEED -VE
Pin A04 ------> Pin 5 (Orange/Black) SPEED +VE
Pin A05 ------> Pin 4 (Violet) ON/OFF

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Remember: The pin out diagrams for D4B are for the non-existent connector that would go into D4A (D4A is the one on your car). Although its damned obvious: the row with the wires is obviously Row A, and there is one pin not-connected (A01), then moving along the next 4 are connected, so A06 to A08 are also not connected.

All you need to do then is connect Pin 2 of the Cruise Control Stalk (Blue) to a +12V feed.

Let me know how this goes; am thinking of making up a guide, who knows!
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