General My Scudo Build

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General My Scudo Build

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Hi All,

New to the forum browsed for a while to find some answers to questions so thought id join and share some progress on my Scudo build :)

I have a 2008 (new shape) L2 Scudo and currently converting it into a day van. Not your typical day van with a bed and sink more to use for every day life with the dogs and kids and take it camping rather than fitting our life into 2 cars!

So no sleeping just a place to make travel much easier, ability to pack and move around easier and still use the van day to day if I need to shop runs, tip runs etc

So she's white, 58 plate 114k on the clock ex sparky fleet van. Ply lined inside, 3 seats at the front and a full metal bulkhead. Noisy as hell! No real issues sorry for the bad photo

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Spent some time on the t4/5 forum as a ghost just getting ideas and doing some research for the rear seats (I have two children aged 1 and 6) decided to go with Renault Espace seats as they have the integrated seat belts

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They are grey leather and suede photo and different light makes them look brown / cream but they will do the job. I messed up when I made the purchase and didn't really think about fixing them to the van lol!

Both rear seats cost me £150

So I was lucky to contact the seller on ebay and I could purchase the full rails both short and long sets and seat runners for front seats (so I asked and he had matching front seats)

So we done a deal and I bought the full rail and runner set for £90 and two front seats for £140. The only down side I have is the front seats require electric and have air bags - but this a problem for later in the build.

*NOTE:
I have 4 x full rails if anyone wants to purchase them off me, for two seats!


I spent some time lifting up the ply that was just screwed the the body using self tapping screws (bloody mess that was) note: I've not cleaned it at this point just working out what I can use and what I can't and If i I can use the original mount points on the van.

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Found the original fixing points will work for some rails so I took a 2mm bit and drilled up from under side the van, giving me a pilot hole and then I took a 10mm bit and drilled through the panel to expose the threads

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First a bit of a sweep to clean the floor, first problem outside rails can all mount to the original points inside rails require some plates for the underside of the van (I purchased these on ebay £2.49 each for 50x25mm 1/4inch steel plate with a threaded 10mm hole) secured the bolt (using M10 for the rails) with a self locking nylon safety nut

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In the first photo the rail closest to the front is located directly over the fuel tank! To make it worse I just filled the van up so I didn't fancy lowering the tank with all 75ltr of diesel so with the risk I decided to drill down through the body work and made a small hole 2inches wide by 1inch deep this was enough for me to slide a spanner under and my fingers to just locate the bolt, apply the plate and nut. Lock off with a spanner and tighten

(I'll patch this hole up using some body repair Aluminum Mesh, bond over with metal filler and then body filler)

All seats are secured and checked first glance been told should MOT fine - time will tell in a few weeks, when I have it tested and the van re-registered.

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Next the bulk head

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Simple enough small socket to take out the bolts and then a 10mm drill bit to tap out the rivet heads 5min later and shes out

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Bit of a break because of work

I been buying up some Silent Coat sheets, Bicumen, Foil Insulation, Ply (some of the old floor was too far gone)

Next job removed the rear ply floor and cleaned everything

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After taking up the screws I cleaned all the rust off (just surface) with some Citric Acid once dry I sprayed with some Zinc Oxide

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May or may not bite me in the a** but this has worked on bikes I have restored in the past. On the floor I didn't want to go nuts so I used some 44x12 mm batten got a rough layout on the floor to work with

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Using no nails stuck all of these in place

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Needed to use a brick and some extra weight to keep some battens from lifting.

On the floor I decided to save a bit of cash and go with bitumen sheeting picked up the 225mm wide stuff from screw fix for £17 per 10m roll. I know I don't have to run the entire floor with it to cut out vibrations but I thought it would give me a good base to work with (made a massive difference)

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At the moment I'm keeping the lower bulk head as Id still like to transport some things (as we run a massive allotment) I don't want anything sliding forward towards my feet BUT that might change later in the build.

I've also run in some cables for the battery you will notice I have a negative there. That's not to connect anything I want to run some cables to the front of the cab later off the leisure battery and as the cable I need has not arrived I hope to just tape to the negative and pull what I need through as a guide.

4mm Foil goes down next

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New sheet of ply goes down

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At this point I took some of the silent coat, covered the wheel arches with it and then some more bitumen the rear ply was in good enough condition to use so I put that back and now I don't have such a big sheet to cut around the wheel arches there is a small strip required in the center but that's nothing.

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Progress

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Hole for the cables once I take the front seats out I'll lift up the floor, run the + to the battery and keep the - out to use as a my pull guide

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That's my progress so far, I'm in the middle of building some over complex self / unit to go behind the rear seats. Will update with progress over the next few weeks.

*The long rails I mentioned above

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Great stuff so far :D :D


How did you get on with the heat shield did you have to drop that to get at the bolts you put thru the floor.


I am hoping to miss the fuel tank, as I'm only fitting a single chair.


cheers


Crewie
 
Everyone else got the same problem with the photos? I'll try and add them to flickr or something if so:

Check this out might help:

http://pandalab.co.uk/dev/scudo-build

Its just a folder directory.

The heat shield I just drilled through it, I've had vans and cars in the past where the thing has just fallen off! So I don't think it matters that much, id be shocked if the amount of heat coming from it caused a problem there anyway..

I only had to drill it the once the other mounting points managed to miss them.

As for the fuel tank I thought I managed to miss it as well it was only 1 bolt!

Having "fun" trying to remove the front seats at the moment I'm guessing some lock tight or similar has been used split my knuckles trying to break the grip
 
Nope even your direcoty link comes back with this

404 Not Found
The server can not find the requested page:

pandalab.co.uk/dev/scudo-build (port 80)
Please forward this error screen to pandalab.co.uk's WebMaster.

Even pandalab.co.uk does not work for me. How odd, are you seeing this OK Crewie?
 
Ok got the front passenger seat out that was a mission and a half two bolts had the underside nut missing so I had to undo the entire thing was a real pain.

Offered up low seat base from a Renault Traffic. Seat base is the right hight the time runners are added however none of the current alignment holes work for me.

So I need to drill 4 maybe just 3 new holes. Not a major upset just need to get some more seatbelt anchors bought..

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Battery box also arrived today. Plenty to do in the week. Going to get my shelfs made up first in the back and ill get on with the seats next weekend.
 
So after taking out the front bench and taking the van for a ride this morning.

I was going to keep the current floor rubber matting but I think its going to be best if I lift that out, sound deaden the floor and then cover it all to match the rear.

New problem also discovered after removing the front bench I now have an airbag failure light on - I guess the little cable I unplugged is hooked up to some kind of sensor on the seat (although there are no air bags there) I guess it detects if seat moves air bag goes bang?

So I hope I can splice these tables to the new seat and this will over ride this issue.. Any advice?

EDIT

Ah I thought I could pull the sensor but I'm now thinking the ECU needs to be reprogrammed? As I think its trying to detect 3 seat tensioners / sensors and now I just got two? Not sure if I'm going to like how much this costs or if I should look at trying to disable the air bag system totally so the warning light goes off or keep the seat for MOTs only..

EDIT 2

I think i can add one of these http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/wirewound...&ranSiteID=TnL5HPStwNw-Q41FW588NAFligsATmJoTg to the cable in the cab and this should put the light out (I hope)
 
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Just a quick update: Adding that OHM Resister has fixed the airbag light. It was only amber once connected and turned the van over airbag light went out :)
 
Thanks yeah I'm pleased beats having to play with the computer. Its only for the one seat belt the other two should operate normally although having been in two crashes in my life in a car with and without airbags, id take no air bags any day of the week!

Anyway.. This week I hope to install windows, units and today some leather vinyl samples turned up I was planning on having carpet in the back however with two dogs I think this is the better option:

Samples

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Odd. I use Chrome and cant see the pictures apart from a blue box where a picture should be. If i use Firefox i dont even see the blue box but when i try Opera i see it fine but hate Opera. So i must be missing something in my computer. Abobe says i have flash so cant be that.

Anyone any ideas?
 
Images added to the Flickr account for you :) As for the images I have sent you a PM
 
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Ok so I had some time to myself and decided to offer up these samples to see what would complement it for a trim..

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Gutted!

I think I need more of a brown / grey colour. I can get black to work I think but I don't want the interior to be a black + neon pink kind of contrast id rather it work and complement the seats I bought (which know seems like a rubbish choice - note to all builders get black or grey lol)

Plus with a possible black rubber floor it could become too dark inside. Trying to use one supplier for the vinyl that I've used in the past but I guess I might have to expand my search depending on what the new samples come out like..
 
Installed the windows today. Done it all myself. Learn't loads, some bits I can tidy up inside later but I think for first go its all good. I guess it's not what I would call 'perfect'

Other thing I'm not happy with is the back of the bonded windows towards the rear then I should day seems to sit off the body I guess this is down to the curve in body and lack of curve in the glass? I've seen plenty like this before and its on there tight there just something about a 10mm gap between glass and body I don't like even though I guess it makes little difference.. IF not I've blown half a day and £180 quid and need to get it done by a pro lol :(

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I need to replace the windscreen on my van but I'm gonna have a go myself as I have the spare glass. Where did you buy the glue for bonding your window & did you have any hassle getting it to stick? Thanks in advance for any reply.
 
I need to replace the windscreen on my van but I'm gonna have a go myself as I have the spare glass. Where did you buy the glue for bonding your window & did you have any hassle getting it to stick? Thanks in advance for any reply.

I bought everything from Van Pimps came to £160-180 I think all in. They do a bonding kit (In fact the instructions they provided is for fitting a windscreen! :) )

http://www.vanpimps.co.uk/product/1-window-fitting-kit/

Or its two for £26 the only difference is you get an extra tube of silicon. Each silicon tube does enough for 1 fat beed per window. So I think if you was doing a wind screen id go for two tubes.

Nope had no hassle at all. I was considering doing a tact cloth before I started but could not see anyone else doing it and I thought it might cause some issues (maybe) with the agents.

You add the bonding agent to the van, paint that on with the applicator provided, right or wrong mine dried off (thanks to the sun) I then applied a fat beed around the window. (YOU can apply to glass or van, I just think the van is easier) Then you wipe down the glass (it says its to help it react with the silicone with a wet wipe looking thing!) take the class and apply it to the van push on I set some card under it to keep a small gap, taped off and it was fine.

To be honest I think 60seconds of holding the glass there it would hold fast, I just didn't want to take the risk. 3 hours later it was solid although I'm not driving the van till tomorrow but it all seems fine.

The sticking bit was the easiest bit! Cutting was the worse. I think if your doing a windscreen it will be fine just make sure the surface is clean (as assuming old wind screen is being removed) and an extra pair of hands. IF you use suction cups I got a pair from screwfix for £13 make sure they are stuck first time I picked up the window it gave way!
 
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