I think you will need to blank it off
as it may get stuck open
a plate is around £3.00 off ebay
how old is the motor ?

It's a 2009 Citroen nemo.

is it a 1.4 or 1.3

1.4

Seen this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EGR-valve...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item338ff5fa98

you have the hdi engine that is the plate you need
just blank it off to stop any of that black crap getting in the manifold
the last 1 I did was this engine in a fiesta and the egr / pipe was full
and lots of black smoke at high revs

Any more progress here chaps?

Hi all,


I need some help from you friendly folks.


I've got a 2007 Ducato x250, 120 2.3 liter. 140,000k or so.


Wifey went to start it, and no power. She called the roadside service people, and they came to check it out. He said it was the EGR. He tapped on it with a hammer, power returned. Wifey drove it to the shop to ask for an estimate. 600 swiss francs+ for the new EGR, plus labor. Hmm, she called me. I told her to drive it home and i'd do it myself. (I saw a new EGR on e-bay for 110 euros.)


Now I've started reading a bit about it, and maybe my best bet is to just blank it off? Yes, I know that it may be illegal. And that it may create more NOx. But with more power and less particulate, and better mpg. Life is a trade off.


The blanking plate is available on ebay for less than 10 francs. Is it hard to install? As in, is the egr accessible on this model? What are the potential holdups and pitfalls?


Does anything else need to be done? Blocking the vacuum hoses off? adding any sort of electronic gadgetry? Cleaning the intake manifold? (is this a pain in the arse to remove, or no big deal? Just need a new gasket?, etc.etc.) I don't want the motor to appear modified if I need to take it in for the MOT type test.


Basically, I'm a cheap bastard and need to get my van working dependably on a low budget. Ive got some mechanical know-how and basic tools, but don't have an ecu scanner or pressure test equipment. I'm out of town right now, so can't even look under the bonnet myself and see what, if anything, needs to be removed to get access. But I need to figure out what to do so I can get it fixed as soon as I return there next week...

Has anyone here done this on the same model? If so, how long did it take, and what exactly needed to be done?


Sorry for the long post, and thanks in advance for your advice...




....also posting this in egr blanking thread

My son had an 07 35-12 Iveco. Same engine same system basically for camper conversion but he sold it.
Its EGR was not stuck bad enough to kill the power but if smoked all the time
We cut a rough aluminium piece and put it in
Its not easily got at but between being in below and up above I got the thing slid into place,
It should be a little easier on a ducato as the engine is transverse
Warning light came on on dash but the thing drove fine until he sold it
If you can get a plate especially with slots go for it. EGRs are a nuisance albeit they are meant to cut down on NOX but they dont do the life of the vehicle.
Your Ducato has already proven that the valve can fail and retunr and teh management will keep up with it
I been blocking them now for about 25 years.
Dont need to block anything else just stop the soot from recycling
I would not start removing manifolds etc if the thing was going well enough before hand.
If the warning light is on n the dash and it becokes an mot failure you have two options
One take it to a remapper and have the EGR deleted/masked off on the ECU
If the thing is driving well enough one can removed the dash and if you have an electronic friend get them to suck the led off of the PCB and connect it to an ajacent LED taht behaves in a similar fashoin to normal with a couple of fine wires and just use a litte epoxy to remount nearly in original position on PCB
Long story but loads of options
Once it blocked, it stays blocked.
Once you buy the first replacement it'll not be as long to you need the next one. Same with all emission control stuff
I have never know an MOT mand to look for a plate in an EGR
Hope that helps
D

Blank the EGR with a (Ebay) plate, and take the car to a remapper to have the EGR electronicaly deleted from the ECU, the warning light will go off.

Peter Pick-Up said:

Blank the EGR with a (Ebay) plate, and take the car to a remapper to have the EGR electronically deleted from the ECU, the warning light will go off.

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I had this plate fitted at a service (on my Fiorino) and I had a LOT of serious issues of the car going into limp mode which on the motorway was the worst hassle you could imagine. It was random and unpredictable (thanks Fiat) and it would drop to 3rd gear max and go slow. I had to pull over and stop the engine and restart. Sometimes it would last until I got to where I was going, other times it would cut again within yards - can you imagine how dangerous this 'feature' is???

I spoke to my garage man and he said if the EGR was deleted, they'd also have to delete the DPF though I don't know how true that is (might have been if I wanted a re-map - been a while since I asked so I don't know which one is right)..
Daunted by all the info/misinfo, I've left the current Qubo alone and apart from the issue where the 'Change Engine Oil' warning wouldn't go off until about 10 resets and then only after an overnight 'rest', it's running ok although I do often think about all the oily exhaust going back round into the supposedly clean region of the manifold and the DPF burning all the accumulated soot every now and then somewhat negating the idea of filtering it.

Apparently an EGR plate with a hole in it stops the ECU filing a fault as it 'sees' the cr*p going into the manifold and registers everything as normal but of course that's still letting the crud into the engine again.
Doesn't this become cumulative as the constant recycling of the output from the engine keeps going round and round getting oilier and oilier...?

Not really convinced about these bright ideas of reducing NOx and particulates

R-V-M

On a recent Diesel engine, blanking alone is not enough indeed.
A good remapper knows.
The folks that did the EGR blanking for you, didn't know what they were doing on the other hand..