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Old 06-08-2017   #1
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1.2 8v 98 cabrio

Hi there, we have bought a fairly ruff, but saveable punto Cabrio. We went to pick it up, and what got me by surprise was that it is a 8v with air-conditioning. The one main problem is the roof won't close properly, and I don't know where to start, there's no power getting to the motor, any help, ideas? Would be greatly appreciated
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

Welcome to the world of Cabrio ownership. If the motor is not working, you can disable the hydraulics to allow it to be opened and closed manually. If you locate the motor on the right hand side of the boot, you will see there are access panels in the trim. Behind one of these you will find a tap, which you turn to disable the hydraulics.
The wiring for the roof is thick and pink and you should find the fuse in the engine compartment. I can tell you where it is on the 1.6, but I'm afraid I am unfamiliar with the 1.2. On the 1.6 it is mounted to the fuse and relay holder bolted to the bulkhead under a screw-on plastic cover.
I hope this helps.
Once you have it working, check my threads about the central reinforcing bar which can cause the mechanism to cut the roof with a scissor action if it is not folded correctly.
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

Thanks a mill man for the reply, will try that now, I had guessed it was on the right side but could be sure, your a massive help, will keep ye posted 😂😂
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

Have a question and a photo from you. The roof will neither go back fully or close fully on the last fold at the drivers window, why is this?
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

That does look odd. The side frame should be straight before the headrail meets the windscreen frame. I wonder whether the central cross rail is getting in the way somehow, or whether there is a problem with the tensioning or the positioning of the rams. Have a look at this thread for some roof issues: http://www.fiatforum.com/punto/35113...oof-issue.html


The hydraulic tap should just require a quarter or half turn.


Looking at your car, it looks like an early ELX which would have had a 1.6 engine. An easy was to check is that the 1.6 has its spark plugs at the front and exhaust manifold at the back and has a single coil for 4 cylinders. The 1.2 is the opposite way round and has two coils, each serving 2 cylinders.
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

The car is definitely a 1.2 8valver. Which is the central cross rail?
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

If you look at the link I posted in the last reply and scroll down the page, you will see it outlined in red. It sits above the join in the side rail where yours is sagging. However, the rear part of your frame should not sit down at the angle that it is, it should be horizontal, so I wonder whether it has been bent. Is it the same on both sides?


I am surprised that it is an 8v 1.2 as I thought Fiat changed from the 8v 1.6 to 16v 1.2. Perhaps it has had an engine transplant. Have a look at the Bertone plate located on the front bonnet slam panel just to the left of the catch, it should have a build number. On my 94 model which looks identical to yours it is No. 4793. Later models had very different interior seats and trim which you can see in the Japanese video also on the same link.
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

Thanks a mill, was investigating today and the frame is bent massively around the rear hinges 😫. No worries, I'm on the look out for a new frame or just get the gas out...

Ya I'm not sure if it is a original engine, but it is a 1.2 1242 8v automatic with air-conditioning which looks factory, do these all come with air conditioning?
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

Yes, air conditioning was always an option. The only engine options in the UK were the 90 bhp 8v 1.6 which was superseded in 1997 by the 85 bhp 16v 1.2, but I have no idea what options were available in Ireland.


It may be worth contacting these guys for a hood frame, I have found them most helpful when I needed an ECU: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Punto...53.m1438.l2649
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

well that certainly is a weird car, I have never seen a 1.2 8v cabbie before. And I don't recall ever seeing an auto either. Very strange.
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

The funny thing is, this car was imported from England so it must be a mid range spec, thanks so much for your help on this , greatly appreciated. Hey 😁 if you ever have a question about a Cinquecento, I'm the fella 😂
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

It's definitely odd, but fiat odd. It all looks 100% factory. The woman that bought it came to Ireland and brought the car with her. I say it was a special order!
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

Hi. Where abouts are you? I know where there is a scrapper. I'm in Limerick. Have had the roof off both of mine. Easy enough to do when you know how. PM me for details.
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Re: 1.2 8v 98 cabrio

I'm in Roscommon myself, a Cabrio in a scrapper?
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