ophthalmofox said:

I got a haynes manual how can i use this wiring diagram
I am not professional

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You don't have to be.

Let me have a think and get back to you. But, to my mind, the issue is that you're just not getting any current to the coils. I doubt if this has anything to do with the key.

Update:
I got someone who managed to start the car but excessive smoke came from the exhaust pipe ( white ) and too many oil from the engine
He told me the that the electricity is fine and i have a major engine problem

What do you think i may have that make the car suddenly stop like this

headgasket

ophthalmofox said:

What do you think i may have that make the car suddenly stop like this

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I would also say headgasket.
White smoke and no start condition is consistent with coolant in the cylinders and low compression.
I thought you let your friend drive? That could be your headgasket gone.

dumbledore said:

I would also say headgasket.
White smoke and no start condition is consistent with coolant in the cylinders and low compression.
I thought you let your friend drive? That could be your headgasket gone.

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how can this be fixed ? is it easy ? take time ?




and what is the cause ? he asked me if the engine was on 3 cylinders only I don't know really but is this may be a cause ?


thank you o much you all gave me great help
specially ( fingers99 ) thank you so much

Headgasket on punto mk1 1.1 or 1.2 8v engine is one of the easiest headgasket job you can do compared to any other car. But is still hard to do if you not familiar.
Still you need to confirm you have a headgasket problem 100% before you will attempt to do it.
Being easy to do a garage should not charge too much to do this job for you.

Best way to confirm head gasket issue is with a compression test.

Generally head gaskets go for a reason: likely candidates are water loss, thermostat stuck shut, radiator fan not coming on.

Till that moment i am stuck with a local garage who's trying to fix the engine but i have a big dout that this isn't the cause !!
He found the one piston is melted with the compression rings and the others is somehow good
Is this piston can stop tge car like this ?

I'm just afraid that after all this money and time the car still not turn on


Dave, can you please tell me about the earth cables in mk1 cars ?

I know the one that's fixed to the gearbox and goes to the negative of the battery

Where the other one you mentioned that is fixed to the rear of the engine?

Also when i was cranking the engine the rpm gauge was moving from 0 to 5 in a shacking manner coinciding with the engine sound !

This came to my mind as i remebered that while im trying to crank the engine the negative cable of the battery become hot ! Is that make sense?!

Please help me with these questions as i am getting mad

Can a bad ignition switch crank the engine but not starting it ?

Can one bad piston make such situation , or can low compression in just one cylinder make this ?

What cause the rpm needle to shake from 0 to 5 to 0 again repeatedly and quickly while cranking !?

Sorry but really need any help

if the damaged / melted piston is still in the engine.. it will only run on 3 cylinders, AND use oil.

you need to have the engine stripped, and the bores checked,honed ( skimmed if needed),

it MAY be cheaper to get another engine..,
Charlie

:yeahthat:

In fact, it'll almost always be cheaper to get another engine. Keep the cylinder head, it may come in handy.

Thank you but you didn't tell me is one bad piston prevent the engine from starting

Also the rpm needle issues i mentioned.

depends on the damage to the piston, but yes it could stop it starting or even turning over completely - or in other circumstances the engine would still start and run but badly. Impossible to say for sure without know the extent of the damage.

Thank you so much , i just have douts that it isnt an engine issue !!

Lets wait and see , the new engine eill be installed by tomorrow

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Thank you so much , i just have douts that it isnt an engine issue !!

Lets wait and see , the new engine eill be installed by tomorrow

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Hi,
clouds of oily smoke out of exhaust can ONLY be due to engine wear

the flickering rev counter is because it's meeting different levels of compression due to faulty piston / rings,

let us know how it goes tomorrow,
Charlie

varesecrazy said:

Hi,
clouds of oily smoke out of exhaust can ONLY be due to engine wear

the flickering rev counter is because it's meeting different levels of compression due to faulty piston / rings,

let us know how it goes tomorrow,
Charlie

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thank you Charlie


some one told me that my key don't have a chip so I must remove the immobilizer fault from the my douts .


here is pics of my key . can anyone confirm this ?



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Can't really tell -- it's not a standard FIAT key -- only real way to tell is by unpicking it and looking for a chip or getting a "dumb" key (without chip) cut and trying that.

Still, if there were immob issues I'd expect the CODE light to illuminate.

And it'd not cause smoke!

Thank you fingers99 really for your great help

I just cant stop my worries !!

Will update you tomorrow after the new engine is being installed

My car is now on the road again

Work very smooth and powerful now after the new engine


Thank you all for provide help and accept my numerous questions