Hello all. I have a P reg Mk1. I seem to have quite a bit of what looks like wet oil on the front of my engine block. The seal on the rocker cover seems quite wet too, as does the transmission housing (think this is right part).

Anyone got any ideas? Thanks!

Sounds like the rocker cover gasket, probably in conjunction with the coil pack O ring and maybe the camshaft oil seal.

Check also that the breather pipe isn't full of carp.

Sounds like the rocker cover gasket, probably in conjunction with the coil pack O ring and maybe the camshaft oil seal.

Check also that the breather pipe isn't full of carp.

Thanks for the reply. I had my coil pack off yesterday, to give myself some room to replace the thermostat. There seemed to be an alright seal on the O.

What is the difference between camshaft seal and rocker seal in terms of location - forgive my ignorance.

Thanks

You have, in that area, the O ring on the coil pack, the cam (aka rocker) cover gasket and a bona fide oil seal on the pulley end of the camshaft.

fingers99 said:

You have, in that area, the O ring on the coil pack, the cam (aka rocker) cover gasket and a bona fide oil seal on the pulley end of the camshaft.

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noticed some oil on top of water pump metal hose and on top of fuel pump, wiped it clean 1 week ago, so there must be a leak somewhere, cant be camshaft cover gasket as i changed it on 4th feb and couldnt see any oil around it

had a look in autodata to check how long it should take to change the other oil seals

are these numbers correct or just inflated to charge customers more

almost 4 hours to change crankshaft rear oil seal?

Well, the use of front and rear is a bit silly, but my guess is they mean the passenger side crankshaft seal, so they'll be removing the gearbox and flywheel. Oh joy!

fingers99 said:

Well, the use of front and rear is a bit silly, but my guess is they mean the passenger side crankshaft seal, so they'll be removing the gearbox and flywheel. Oh joy!

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wtf removing gearbox to change oil seal n1

where is this seal is located?

Well, the one you're talking about can only be on the end of the crankshaft. But neither is easy to do, as they're full, pukka, oil seals buried under pulleys on the front end, flywheels, clutches and gearboxes on the other.

almost 4 hours to change crankshaft rear oil seal?

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as far as i know the one referred to as rear crank seal is the gearbox end, I changed this on my 16v engine before i dropped it in my cinq - 4 hours would be pretty good going i think for a diy job without a lift and all the tools they would have in a proper garage.
Once all apart it took me a fair while just to get the new seal in properly and seated without damaging it - touch wood i have no leaks so far.

the leak comes at the timing belt end, could it be head gasket leak on 1 cylinder?

It's possible. Much more likely to be the oil seal on the timing end of the cam.

The inexperienced often wreck these on installation.

this rubber seal?

https://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/500/DSC_00755.jpg

https://www.fiatforum.com/punto-ii/281750-75-cam-shaft-pulley-belt.html

also what did that guy gain by putting in camshaft pulley from punto 75?

Yep.

What he gained? Nothing, I'd think, unless maybe the ability to use the same water pump and crank pulley.

Top end i.e rocker cover gasket and camshaft seal can be leaky. Engine condition can affect things, too. Had a leak last summer, but when winter came in and after an oil change the leak disappeared!!! I will not be surprised when summer kicks in that my leak will come back. I am surprised my engine has not sprung any bottom end leak, like crankshaft seals or engine sump gasket yet.

how do i get to this seal, dont understand this haynes explanation

Remove rocker cover, remove cam belt, remove cam belt sprocket, remove camshaft.

omg why didnt u tell me to change this seal when i was changing rocker cover gasket fingers?

Because usually it doesn't go (comes, IIRC, with HG gasket set) and you'd have made a pig's ear of it!

fingers99 said:

Because usually it doesn't go (comes, IIRC, with HG gasket set) and you'd have made a pig's ear of it!

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im just joking, what do u mean pigs ear is that rubber ring hard to fit on or woot

just took one off a mk2 punto and what i thought that was rubber seal looks like its metal, do i put gasket sealer around this seal