Hello everyone,
I have been asked to help an elderly disabled couple who have had an extremely bad time in regard to their Fiat Punto. I think its a 1.1 but doesn’t seem to match some of the photos I have seen here?
Anyway it was taken to a garage that went into receivership and although they got it back it wasn’t running. They then had it collected by another garage who fitted 2 new coil packs and plug leads but were told the car needed a lot more spending on it than they thought but when this garage offered to give them £150.00 for it rather than return it to them they thought something was suspicious so they had the car collected and taken back to them.
This is where I came in and sadly my knowledge of these cars it limited as I am more of an X/19 man.
So far I have had a look at it and read some of the posts on here for guidance but I think I need a little more help and would be grateful for any advice and guidance so that they can have their car running once more.
So far, The air filter was left off and I cannot see a MAP sensor anywhere and I don’t think it has one judging by the little valve thing in the air filter housing. Does this make it a 1 litre engine instead? I have checked that I have fuel going to and from the carb/injector unit which it has and apart from a few unplugged items such as the crank sensor which I have put back together I did get it to fire up but albeit very briefly and basically dying again as it wouldn’t rev up so I think the engine timing is out.
Today I took out the plugs and saw that they were all black and sooty and not new which I was surprised at because I would have thought the garage would have fitted new ones despite the gunk all the plug washers showed some signs of rust on the washers. Anyway, got a spare set, so using them instead. I checked that I have spark at the plugs and I do which is good but I still think the engine timing is out as it still won’t start. I checked the earth cable body to gearbox.
Now this is where I need some help because the camshaft timing cover looks totally different to the ones I have seen on here and the TDC marking point again is also different to the ones I have seen on here. See Photo.
I have also checked for the timing mark on the Gearbox which I have found and set on the mark. And the crankshaft pulley dot seems to match the mark on this timing cover. ( will recheck that it is on No1 cylinder and not 4) as well as remove the cover to check if it marries up with the camshaft pulley as I cannot see any markings for it on the cover. Maybe someone can tell me?
I haven’t checked the crankshaft sensor as yet although having spark must be a good sign!! Same with the ECU not that I would know what to check other than its plugged in and not making any strange noises or is hot.
Other than that I saw on the dash when cranking the red spray logo light flashing presumably this is some sort of fuel heater like a choke and there are no warning codes that I am aware of.
Don’t think its overfueling as plugs not particularly wet but apart from the engine timing not sure what to check next.
I have noticed that a lot of people who have had issues haven’t said what they did to get their car running again so if anyone has succeeded please let me know what else I need to look at so I can help this couple have their car running again,
Apologies for the long waffle
I have been asked to help an elderly disabled couple who have had an extremely bad time in regard to their Fiat Punto. I think its a 1.1 but doesn’t seem to match some of the photos I have seen here?
Anyway it was taken to a garage that went into receivership and although they got it back it wasn’t running. They then had it collected by another garage who fitted 2 new coil packs and plug leads but were told the car needed a lot more spending on it than they thought but when this garage offered to give them £150.00 for it rather than return it to them they thought something was suspicious so they had the car collected and taken back to them.
This is where I came in and sadly my knowledge of these cars it limited as I am more of an X/19 man.
So far I have had a look at it and read some of the posts on here for guidance but I think I need a little more help and would be grateful for any advice and guidance so that they can have their car running once more.
So far, The air filter was left off and I cannot see a MAP sensor anywhere and I don’t think it has one judging by the little valve thing in the air filter housing. Does this make it a 1 litre engine instead? I have checked that I have fuel going to and from the carb/injector unit which it has and apart from a few unplugged items such as the crank sensor which I have put back together I did get it to fire up but albeit very briefly and basically dying again as it wouldn’t rev up so I think the engine timing is out.
Today I took out the plugs and saw that they were all black and sooty and not new which I was surprised at because I would have thought the garage would have fitted new ones despite the gunk all the plug washers showed some signs of rust on the washers. Anyway, got a spare set, so using them instead. I checked that I have spark at the plugs and I do which is good but I still think the engine timing is out as it still won’t start. I checked the earth cable body to gearbox.
Now this is where I need some help because the camshaft timing cover looks totally different to the ones I have seen on here and the TDC marking point again is also different to the ones I have seen on here. See Photo.
I have also checked for the timing mark on the Gearbox which I have found and set on the mark. And the crankshaft pulley dot seems to match the mark on this timing cover. ( will recheck that it is on No1 cylinder and not 4) as well as remove the cover to check if it marries up with the camshaft pulley as I cannot see any markings for it on the cover. Maybe someone can tell me?
I haven’t checked the crankshaft sensor as yet although having spark must be a good sign!! Same with the ECU not that I would know what to check other than its plugged in and not making any strange noises or is hot.
Other than that I saw on the dash when cranking the red spray logo light flashing presumably this is some sort of fuel heater like a choke and there are no warning codes that I am aware of.
Don’t think its overfueling as plugs not particularly wet but apart from the engine timing not sure what to check next.
I have noticed that a lot of people who have had issues haven’t said what they did to get their car running again so if anyone has succeeded please let me know what else I need to look at so I can help this couple have their car running again,
Apologies for the long waffle