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My Punto has a massive (-2'27") negative camber on the front right wheel, which scrubbed down a new tire to the wear indicator on the inside after ~800 miles.

Is there a proper way to correct it other than offset bolts?
 
Yiiiiieeeeehaw said:
My Punto has a massive (-2'27") negative camber on the front right wheel, which scrubbed down a new tire to the wear indicator on the inside after ~800 miles.

Is there a proper way to correct it other than offset bolts?
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totally off the top of my head that sounds like a very small amount of camber to create such a huge tire damage so quickly.
 
Yiiiiieeeeehaw said:
My Punto has a massive (-2'27") negative camber on the front right wheel, which scrubbed down a new tire to the wear indicator on the inside after ~800 miles.

Is there a proper way to correct it other than offset bolts?
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Offset bolts is not the solution, to whatever problem lies in your front suspension. It might be a worn bushing or something else. Have it checked. Are you running dampers with adjustable camber?

judderbar said:
totally off the top of my head that sounds like a very small amount of camber to create such a huge tire damage so quickly.
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Not really.. Sounds fairly reasonable. 2'27" is quite a lot.
 
Hi, on my mk2b I have noticed that the offside wheel is closer to the A piller than the nearside wheel. I have been looking closely at lots of puntos and a lot are the same, does anyone know if this is normal? Thanks
 
Have you had a 4 wheel track? in the old days just did the front and adjusting the same side till it didn't line up with rear. Still yours sounds like another problem. So useless info click the dick button if I didn't help:eek:
 
Ziggy122 said:
Normally id expect about 1degree camber

If its that badly out
Something is bent
A bent wishbone or shocker

What was the other side like?

Failing that something else is wrong like a knackered bushing or ball joint

Ziggy
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ONE DEGREE?! I don't even run that much on my adjustable coilovers! As far as I recall manufacturer tolerance for the Punto mk2 is somewhere around -0°30'+/-5'
 
Actually, I doubt it is the camber but the toe, even if the sheet did state that it was within the limits because you can hear the grooves of the tire dragging over the road on the highway and the wear was excessive even on the outside, not uneven 'camber wear'.

The front tires lasted a total of 7500 miles until so worn that the car didn't hold on the road in the wet (almost as if the more worn wheel dragged to the outside of the car), replaced last week.

How about throwing new arms at it and getting another alignment?
 
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How's the self tracking of the car? Pulling to a side I imagine? If it actually is the toe, it might well be solves by adjusting the tie rods.. But of course it might also lie in worn lower arm bushings. If you've got no idea on when or if they've been changed, I'd swap them. I'm doing the same on mine after ~95000mi and 11½ years (mostly because I don't want to fit poly bushes on old ball joints) to get more stability under braking
 
The car drives more or less straight. However, I came across this recently:
I'd like to state that those tyres have been used on my weekend toy car, meaning that 90% of miles they've done were on full open throttle.

The tyres are nicely matched with the car (Abarth 500). The grip loss is very gradual and complimented the car's tendency to shift to the side with all four wheels (no over/under steer) at the same time very well. The grip levels in dry are on par with Pirelli P-Zero Nero (compared when run on my friend's Fiesta ST) but those Continentals seemed to be seriously more grippy and predictable in the wet.

They are excellent tyres really as they were designed to be good all around tyres but when driven extremely aggressively on a fairly rough tarmac they held up quite well.

The downside is definitely a price (at least for what I need my tyres to do on this particular car) as for this price you can get something that's 100% performance oriented.

Also I did manage to get the inner edges on front tyres down to 4.5mm (70% wear) in less then 3000 miles while running about -1.5 degree negative camber.

I definitely recommend those tyres as the performance they provide exceeds the original purpose of those tyres. They are great, safe and predictable daily tyres that won't let you know when pushed to and past the limit of your car.
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So it might as well be an issue with the Continental ContiPremiumContact 2 tires themselves.

I'm now running some Chinese Autogrip F101 and thus far (~1000 miles), there's no visible wear.
 
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Yup, it's the tires. The Xingi Lingi don't show any wear yet after 8000km, but the wet grip is terrible.

As far as Continental goes, I'd much rather ContiEcoContact5. Or Pirelli Cinturato.
 
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