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To answer your questions, yes, and no there was absolutely no difference.
Just buy the cheapest, they will be fine.
What you buy will be exactly what the non fiat garages will fit. :)
 
The question Here isn't quite right.

"Fake parts" look the same feel the same but are often made of substandard materials very cheaply and can be dangerous even lethal,

"patent parts" are parts made to the same standard as the original parts without the cost.

And genuine parts are those branded fiat but these can still be made by the patent parts manufacturers.

The reason I would currently advise anyone to steer clear of eBay parts are because there are a lot of "fake" parts very poor quality dangerous parts being sold as new, often made in China.

If you buy patent parts from a quality supplier like euro car parts Gsf etc you will be getting good parts and will not be able to tell them apart from the genuine fiat parts
 
AndyRKett said:
The question Here isn't quite right.

"Fake parts" look the same feel the same but are often made of substandard materials very cheaply and can be dangerous even lethal,

"patent parts" are parts made to the same standard as the original parts without the cost.

And genuine parts are those branded fiat but these can still be made by the patent parts manufacturers.

The reason I would currently advise anyone to steer clear of eBay parts are because there are a lot of "fake" parts very poor quality dangerous parts being sold as new, often made in China.

If you buy patent parts from a quality supplier like euro car parts Gsf etc you will be getting good parts and will not be able to tell them apart from the genuine fiat parts
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And where is your empirical evidence for the 'very poor quality dangerous 'even lethal'' brake discs and pads parts being sold as new on ebay ? :rolleyes:
Or have you been watching too much tv :idea:

oh, edit , I missed the 'lethal' bit haha, even better.
 
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flisko said:
magneti marrelii pads & discks compared to brembo are like few squid apart in price and magneti should be so much better quality if whole car is assembled with their parts?
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Not necessarily.
Just get the cheapest from ebay. They will be fine. You will not notice the difference. You are just paying for a name. You can buy different grade material for pads if you like, but seeing as these are design for non road use, and a punto is a shopping car, I would not advise it at all.
Painting your callipers red would have a greater benefit than buying brembo discs / pads .(y)
 
Hi,

I'd agree with the advice Andy gave. Of course there are SOME cheap brands that may well be fine, but it's also a well known fact that the market is flooded with fake inferior parts. Millions of pounds worth are seized every year coming into the country.

I bought a cheap set of disks from eBay and they warped so easily that I got rid of them after a few months.
of course that's not to say ALL cheap disks are crap, but your certainly taking a higher risk of getting a lower quality product if you buy very cheap or unbranded ones.

Alan
 
Twotoncarman said:
And where is your empirical evidence for the 'very poor quality dangerous 'even lethal'' brake discs and pads parts being sold as new on ebay ? :rolleyes:
Or have you been watching too much tv :idea:
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As already pointed out UK trading standards are in a constant battle over forgeries, car parts alone are estimated to be costing the UK economy £4-6billion

Now, as you're trying to be clever with your 'empirical evidence' I should point out your own 'experiance' represents anecdotal evidence and is of very little value. Where as the constant articles and warnings from TSI Police and other agencies involved in cracking down on this crime, represent fairly strong 'stactical evidence'. You don't need to watch TV just read occasionally to learn about this type of crime, however if you like I could if you like back up my claims with research, like this 2005 published article on exactly this subject.
There are infact a multitude of articles on the subject one from America looked at fake brake components made from compressed grass and wood clippings that burst into flames when used.
Even books have been written on the subject (Navaro (2009) Chinese Counterfeiting and Piracy: Real Dangers to Your Health and Our Economy, Pearson education)

Seriously wind your neck in and start playing nice trolling isn't going to win you any friends or favours
 
AndyRKett said:
As already pointed out UK trading standards are in a constant battle over forgeries, car parts alone are estimated to be costing the UK economy £4-6billion

Now, as you're trying to be clever with your 'empirical evidence' I should point out your own 'experiance' represents anecdotal evidence and is of very little value. Where as the constant articles and warnings from TSI Police and other agencies involved in cracking down on this crime, represent fairly strong 'stactical evidence'. You don't need to watch TV just read occasionally to learn about this type of crime, however if you like I could if you like back up my claims with research, like this 2005 published article on exactly this subject.
There are infact a multitude of articles on the subject one from America looked at fake brake components made from compressed grass and wood clippings that burst into flames when used.
Even books have been written on the subject (Navaro (2009) Chinese Counterfeiting and Piracy: Real Dangers to Your Health and Our Economy, Pearson education)

Seriously wind your neck in and start playing nice trolling isn't going to win you any friends or favours
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So the results og your google were begger all lol ;)
Seriously, stop making stupid statements.
There is no issue, you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Many many companies in china make perfectly good parts for cars. You are watching too many crappy tv shows about underworked TS staff and iPhone chargers.
It is you who appears to be trolling chap.
where are the reports of dangerous brake products in the UK ?.. none. Some have been falsely badged with a more well known name. big deal, nothing new not dangerous, not lethal.
Most Motor factors sell the very same products.
The Peri parts for the panda for example are simply excellent. You need to chill out and get off your high horse.
 
Twotoncarman said:
So the results og your google were begger all lol ;)
Seriously, stop making stupid statements.
There is no issue, you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Many many companies in china make perfectly good parts for cars. You are watching too many crappy tv shows about underworked TS staff and iPhone chargers.
It is you who appears to be trolling chap.
where are the reports of dangerous brake products in the UK ?.. none. Some have been falsely badged with a more well known name. big deal, nothing new not dangerous, not lethal.
Most Motor factors sell the very same products.
The Peri parts for the panda for example are simply excellent. You need to chill out and get off your high horse.
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Why buy crap off eBay when anyone can walk into a high street parts supplier and pay less?

Two other people have responded above, to your comments I don't see you jumping on them with your nonsense, clearly you have an issue, hence having to argue over every post I make.

The thing Is you might like to claim experiance or some sort of superior knoledge but you're just a name on the Internet with 40ish posts, I as do many others here have some credibility behind them. :rolleyes:
 
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Huh ? you have credibility ? where ? how ?
Just because you make a few videos means jack, amusing though they are and showing bad practice in some areas. They dont give one confidence. You are simply another name chap.
Again, show me the lethal and dangerous brake parts in the uk, not iphone chargers and fake handbags. You need to chill.
The brake parts are the subject of this topic, not your ego..
 
Twotoncarman said:
Huh ? you have credibility ? where ? how ?
Just because you make a few videos means jack, amusing though they are and showing bad practice in some areas. They dont give one confidence. You are simply another name chap.
Again, show me the lethal and dangerous brake parts in the uk, not iphone chargers and fake handbags. You need to chill.
The brake parts are the subject of this topic, not your ego..
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Badly done or not 50,000 hits a month it's still more credibility than you have picking fights all over this forum and making unproven claims about what you have (or haven't) done.

The evidence is there that I have done these things and if I got it wrong so what? I post it up for people to see, you however only have your empirical evidence, oh and if look there are some links above you clearly missed with the lethal and dangerous brake parts, I'm guessing you missed them while trying to knock me out of my Ivory tower :D
 
Ebay parts are sometimes called white box surprise

Why? Because you dont know what you are getting to be honest

Is it a cheap part cheap?
A branded part sold really cheap? It just leaves you asking questions

Stick to branded products from decent suppliers
They will have certificates of genuine products from suppliers like pagid ferodo and mintex to say the least

There are many many brands, I find one and tend to stick to it

Like electronics I like bosch, magnetelli, ngk etc

Brakes I never skimp on
I spend my money in rubber and stopping
If I need a spring it gets a quality replacement

Most wont give you a differeny brake pedal
You only know when it counts most or when you wish you had spent more to prevent that bump


Ziggy
 
Weirdly, I had a bad experience with the Genuine Fiat stuff, albeit on the mk1. They suffered horrible brake-fade which nearly left me in the middle of a roundabout, and only lasted the year. My garage fitted OEM-spec stuff (Pagid I think), and they were great, no fading lasted for as long as I kept the car.
 
AndyRKett said:
Badly done or not 50,000 hits a month it's still more credibility than you have picking fights all over this forum and making unproven claims about what you have (or haven't) done.

The evidence is there that I have done these things and if I got it wrong so what? I post it up for people to see, you however only have your empirical evidence, oh and if look there are some links above you clearly missed with the lethal and dangerous brake parts, I'm guessing you missed them while trying to knock me out of my Ivory tower :D
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You really seem to have a huge ego.
There is NO evidence to support what you are saying. You keep posting incorrect info. It is only appropriate that people make you aware of your mistakes. It is also quite worrying that you equate 'number of hits' on a youtube video to credibility.
There is nothing in the links you posted to back up your claims that ebay brake products are dangerous and lethal, as you put it :rolleyes:.
Mind you, you cannot tell Stainless steel from HT:ROFLMAO: 'nuff said :nutter:
Just chill out and do more research lad. Drop the attitude and stop 'kicking off' as you succinctly put it.
 
Ziggy122 said:
Stick to branded products from decent suppliers
They will have certificates of genuine products from suppliers like pagid ferodo and mintex to say the least
Ziggy
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You like the pads made in China, Korea and India etc then ? (y)

Like Pagit and Mintex (same company)
NISH has an established position as a global player in the areas of brake, mechatronics, textiles and electronics. NISH's brake business is operated globally by Nisshinbo Brake Inc. ("NISB") and its overseas subsidiaries which include manufacturing facilities in Japan, South Korea, USA, China, Thailand, and India.
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China make great products for brakes, you can get some superb bargains on ebay as well when you get the same stuff without paying for the name...
or :idea: did you think they were made in Germany :D

Ferodo are also made in China.. as are most OEM parts. Surprisingly you can buy the same quality parts often made in the same factory as high sticker price ones - again, just look on ebay, or your motor factor. The unbranded ones are better value, the branded ones are often the same but put in copied packaging.
(y)
 
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