oldhammer said:

ive only ever driven the shoemaker edition mind so not sure if all same.

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Of all the Sei Sportings, the Schumaker is the one to avoid:

* Named after a pillock
* Granny ABS makes bearing and hub replacement expensive
* Stupid wheel size makes putting cheap performance tyres on impossible, and if you sell the wheels so you can put 195/45/14s on the gearing becomes too low
* Named after a pillock.

fingers99 said:

Of all the Sei Sportings, the Schumaker is the one to avoid:

* Named after a pillock
* Granny ABS makes bearing and hub replacement expensive
* Stupid wheel size makes putting cheap performance tyres on impossible, and if you sell the wheels so you can put 195/45/14s on the gearing becomes too low
* Named after a pillock.

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ah rite.

this one drove pretty good.
steering was abit to light for my liking tho and them clocks & dashboard are just horid

these

Forgot the power steering. But it's an easy delete option -- just use Cinq strut top mounts and disconnect it.

Of them all, I prefer the Cinq Sportings. Preferably with a 1.4 16v and/or a turbo!

I always wanted todo a Cinq/Seicento. take the Seicento and fit it with a Cinq rear end and interior and front suspension or take a Cinq and fit a Seicento front end lol.

I honestly think the mk1 punto is a better car than the mk2. It was one of the last Fiats made before (like all cars), they lost that rawness. Sure the mk2 is bigger, comfier and more refined... if they are your main criteria, the mk2 is a better car, but if you enjoy driving above those criteria, the mk1 is much, much better. The mk2 feels wooly in comparison.

I'm another in the Cinq Sporting > Sei Sporting > Punto Mk1 Sporting > Punto Mk2 Sporting.

Throw a mk1 Punto GT into the mix though and it becomes a bit more of a decision though

mariocinq said:

I always wanted todo a Cinq/Seicento. take the Seicento and fit it with a Cinq rear end and interior and front suspension or take a Cinq and fit a Seicento front end lol.

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Why? It would look like it had been in a horrible accident and a cut and shut.

One round end and one square end would just look utterly stupid.

We had a 899cc Cinq and to be honest if i never saw one again it would be too soon, what a horrid little car.

the Sei was as oldhammer said a nice go kart but i won't be buying one anytime soon

mk2 is bigger? strange could get single matress in the back of a mk1 and shut the boot, but couldnt in a mk2

dave said:

mk2 is bigger? strange could get single matress in the back of a mk1 and shut the boot, but couldnt in a mk2

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Still bigger on the outside though...

Another reason the mk1 is better then, more practical

The mk2 Punto was a great car, my parents had a W plate ELX for 8 and a half years, and I bought a mk2b myself back in 2010, which I will be trading in for a Grande Punto tomoz!! Fiats really seem to get under your skin, lol!!

puntofan01 said:

The mk2 Punto was a great car, my parents had a W plate ELX for 8 and a half years, and I bought a mk2b myself back in 2010, which I will be trading in for a Grande Punto tomoz!! Fiats really seem to get under your skin, lol!!

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Fiats really seem to get under your skin, lol!!

idont know about that..perhaps the oil off em does..what with forever having to
fix em.

oldhammer said:

Fiats really seem to get under your skin, lol!!

idont know about that..perhaps the oil off em does..what with forever having to
fix em.

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Harsh but so true, you know the truth can really hurt at times.

Thinking back, all my Fiats have been fairly reliable and the only times I have had issues have been self inflicted, ie tuning up and fitting bigger engines.

the ones I have left alone have be almost faultless apart from wear and tear.

Ok so any of you Mk2 lovers want to swap a Mk1 for a Mk2 lmao???

I always preferred the mark 1, the 16v is a bit sweeter with an extra 6bhp over the same engine in a mk2. Personally I preferred the way they looked as well, I felt the mk1s were better built at least they looked it. I was shopping for my last fiat (8-9 years ago) a long time my search took in both mk 1 and mk 2 elxs, and I'd never seen a modern car with serious roof rust till I saw a mk2 with it. That and I wasn't a fan of the interior.

However mk1s are soo old now that unless I could have one as a second car I wouldn't, simply because I effectly did a mild rolling restoration on my last mk1 to get it up to mint and that was hard enough on a car that was 8 at the time nevermind one that's homing in on the double decade. And like or not nice ones are getting rare so I would hope it would get looked after.

mariocinq said:

Harsh but so true, you know the truth can really hurt at times.

Thinking back, all my Fiats have been fairly reliable and the only times I have had issues have been self inflicted, ie tuning up and fitting bigger engines.

the ones I have left alone have be almost faultless apart from wear and tear.

Ok so any of you Mk2 lovers want to swap a Mk1 for a Mk2 lmao???

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lolloolo super mario, old for new

flisko said:

lolloolo super mario, old for new

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Dam Straight, much prefer to deal with rust than an un-loveable car, I just cant fall in love with the Mk2.

mariocinq said:

Dam Straight, much prefer to deal with rust than an un-loveable car, I just cant fall in love with the Mk2.

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i think i liked mk2 better, probably just for the power steering and electric windows, shape of the car or color rly doesnt botha me

Looks like a fantastic car. If I was still in the market for a daily drive then I would have it in a shot. I don't think it is that overpriced either. If there is nothing really wrong with it then why shouldn't it be worth £850? it has 11 months MOT after all. (saying that, I would try and knock him down to £750).

I loved my mk2 sporting far more than my mk1 55s. Everything about it was better. I have always wanted a mk1 1.2 sporting though.

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I loved my mk2 sporting far more than my mk1 55s. Everything about it was better. I have always wanted a mk1 1.2 sporting though.

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I also ran a 55s for a long time (well 3.5 years) and when the time came to change It couldn't find a mk1 sporting that hadn't been ragged about but couldn't afford a good mk2 sporting at the time. However a mk1 which had had all the factory fitted options came up and all I can say is the only thing my S and the ELX shared was a 5 door body shell in the same shape everything else about it was infinitely better. That and as you can see below it looked like a sporting to the B pillar!

It had bigger brakes, anti roll bars, hydraulic power steering, an engine that provided better than adequate forward propulsion, longer gears, more sound proofing, proper door cards, proper head rests, a centre console, I could go on but I suspect you may have got the idea.

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I also ran a 55s for a long time (well 3.5 years) and when the time came to change It couldn't find a mk1 sporting that hadn't been ragged about but couldn't afford a good mk2 sporting at the time. However a mk1 which had had all the factory fitted options came up and all I can say is the only thing my S and the ELX shared was a 5 door body shell in the same shape everything else about it was infinitely better. That and as you can see below it looked like a sporting to the B pillar!

It had bigger brakes, anti roll bars, hydraulic power steering, an engine that provided better than adequate forward propulsion, longer gears, more sound proofing, proper door cards, proper head rests, a centre console, I could go on but I suspect you may have got the idea.

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See I think that's why I liked my 55s's soo much, one had a full GT interior and the other had the full Sporting interior, but I do agree. my proper 16v sporting was the much better car.

Do you know, we have gone soooooooo far off topic I cant remember what the OP was lol

Seem to remember it was something to do with mk1s versus mk2s lol..

I sold my 55s back in 2006 but it's still the most fun car I've had, not because it was good because it wasn't, it was just rubbish in a really fun way that the 16v was a bit to grown up and competent to replicate. You had to drive it, the 85 16v and my current car were and are much better in every measurable way but not as fun because of it, you don't go tanking into rounderbouts at legal speeds on the ragged edge, screeching all 4 tyres, which is a shame. That and I still miss unassisted steering...