HI, I'm new to this forum, and kinda new to tuning.
And I'm wondering if and what kind of turbo could I install in my Fiat punto II 1.2 60hp? I'm not asking for some top notch turbos or anything, just something basic, cheap turbo that i could toy with (found some 2ndhand, 80-300 euros but none states its for Fiat Punto, it says it's for Audi A3, Bmw 320ish, or some VW). If any1 has some recomendations, links to sites with fiat punto turbos or just some pointers for what i should look out for when looking for a turbo that could fit in that car. Thanks in advance.

LOL, I take it your 17-18?

Do a forum search its been covered many times.

ChrisUK said:

Do a forum search its been covered many times.

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Yea, I was trying to search for it through these 417 pages, but eventually I gave up. If any1 can maybe remebers some of the previous posts about this topic, can you please post some links? thanks

you cant just bolt a turbo on its not as easy as that, engine will go bang

dave said:

you cant just bolt a turbo on its not as easy as that, engine will go bang

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well, thats why i'm here looking for some pointers, about what type of a turbo I could use, what to watch out for when trying to install it and stuff

you would need to change pistons, con rods and compresion(sp) for starters

It has been done before but takes a lot of money, research/knowledge and mechanical skill. Or just a lot more money.

well im not 100% sure on this but i think your engine is kind of the same to the 1 used in the cinqs check out some of the turbo cinq threads/projects and alot will become clearer. They will give you a better understanding, just gotta give it a read

hi, to do this mod requires not only deep pockets but some serious custom modifications and specialist mechanical knowledge.

you would need custom exhuast downpipe, manifold, uprated head gasket, ecu remap on a rolling road probably, possibly even a different cam with different opening duration valve open, closing timing, and as previously said different pistons to change the compression, and possibly hardened con-rods to cope.. so this is a pretty involved job.

Floppydodo said:

well im not 100% sure on this but i think your engine is kind of the same to the 1 used in the cinqs check out some of the turbo cinq threads/projects and alot will become clearer. They will give you a better understanding, just gotta give it a read

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Yea, thanks about this, i asked on some other forum and they also told me to check some cinq threads about this, looks llike a lot of work

RB2009 said:

hi, to do this mod requires not only deep pockets but some serious custom modifications and specialist mechanical knowledge.

you would need custom exhuast downpipe, manifold, uprated head gasket, ecu remap on a rolling road probably, possibly even a different cam with different opening duration valve open, closing timing, and as previously said different pistons to change the compression, and possibly hardened con-rods to cope.. so this is a pretty involved job.

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Yea, from my original idea of getting a turbo I allrdy found out thers more to it then i thought at the start, but i'm wondering, is it in general like this with all the engines, that u need a lot of aftermarket parts, or are there engines where u can just use lets say turbo and ECU for fuel management?

Budget £2000-4000. I know of 1 turbo'd 1.2 8v that was running 120bhp. You might aswell just buy a HGT or a sporting!

As a general rule of thumb if you have to come on here and ask and don't know how to use the built in forum search engine you probably shouldn't bother as both your bank balance and mechanical knowledge can't take it.

alko, why in particular do you want a turbo? You can get gains of up to 70% with natural aspiration from the 1.2 mkII 8v. Start clicking around the GSR Engineering website and look into the induction kit, remap, fast road heads and reprofiled cams. You'll need a Supersprint exhaust to get maximum gains, and possibly larger injectors.

Having said that, these sort of gains will require in the region of £1500 - 2000, but at least it requires no custom fabrication, and uses tried and tested techniques. This works out at about £35 per BHP, which is expensive compared to getting a larger-engined model, but may suit your desire to tune.

I think the 60 model only has 240mm x 11mm solid discs and drums at the rear. Before upping the engine power, you should at least consider a pad upgrade. An HGT vented front brake upgrade might not be a bad idea.

iirc, they used to make turbo kits for the punto. Maybe you can find a 2nd hand one which i doubt you will

alko said:

Yea, from my original idea of getting a turbo I allrdy found out thers more to it then i thought at the start, but i'm wondering, is it in general like this with all the engines, that u need a lot of aftermarket parts, or are there engines where u can just use lets say turbo and ECU for fuel management?

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turbo engines need lower compression as the turbo puts in more air which will self combust under pressure at the wrong time causing engine damage. To reduce the compression ratio it is done by making more room in the cylinder, usually by shallower pistons.
Turbo's generate more heat so harder valves etc are required.
more force/pressure is placed so the pistons and rods are usually stronger
Better engine cooling is required as the turbo heats the oil etc.
more lubrication is often used.

The only engines I know of which can be turbo'd without internal mods are mazda mx5 early 1.6 and 1.8 This is because the engines were designed originally as turbo engines in the 323. mazda left the engine relatively untouched minus the turbo etc when put in the mx5. The engine for a non turbo is over engineered.
Non turbo engines do not require this amount of spec so for cost etc are not, and because normally aspirated engines run different compressions. In the mazdas case it allows a turbo to be bolted back on plus piggy back ecu, manifolds intercooler, oil cooler etc etc...........

Good post bridges

Just another money reminder, even if you managed the job in hand...eh...there is still the question about insurance.... that is,if any company were willing to touch you. LOL.

Modding any car is fun, I'm the last to put anyone off, its just in some cases the costs just don't justify the end..

Bottom line is as stated earlier, you're very young with little mechanical knowledge, so I would keep an eye out for a turbo car, & take someone along who "knows" when viewing, still going to cost, but not as much as your original plan.