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Old 18-12-2014   #16
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Re: Are you happy with your dualogic transmission?

Epic thread resurrection, would be interesting to see how MEP rates it now given the one in his bravo packed up and refused to be fixed despite months of attempts.
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Epic thread resurrection, would be interesting to see how MEP rates it now given the one in his bravo packed up and refused to be fixed despite months of attempts.
I'm still happy with it as a whole, just not the useless and pathetic dealers with no customer service skill, or people who know what they're doing tbh.

Its the above the lets the system down drastically imo.
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I am extremely happy with my Dualogic transmission; I think it's the best part of the car.

I felt that the Dualogic was better engineered in the gear selection mechanism (a light 'snick' rather than a loud 'chack' accompanies selection of first or reverse).

The clutch control is exemplary,




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I agree. On our car (the Fiat Panda 1.2 Dualogic) it is the transmission that I think is the best; all things considered. |I already have a manual car, and also a 'normal' automatic car.

Respectively for each of my cars and their different designs; I feel they have the transmissions that work the best. It happens to be fully manual for one car; fully automatic for another; and for the Panda I feel the semiautomatic transmission is the best transmission to go for.

You know when one is super critical on test driving cars....the first time I drove a Fiat Panda Duaologic...

with all the windows open (listening out) that slight "click sound" one gets when changing gears. drew my attention.

It sounded like a snapping stick.

I once had a car with an imploded wheel bearing. That can sound the same. So I wondered if it was that.

I have also had a car twice in my life where the planet and sun wheels have broken in the differential.

That too can sound exactly like the "snapping stick" sound you can sometimes hear when the dualogic changes gear.

(Eventually a broken sun/planet gear can sound like you have run over a brick with a bang incidentally. I thought that was had happened the first time it happened to me.)

But then I realised it was not any of those problems; so I was happy! It was the Dualogic Panda doing its job.

I can assure those that seem to have come across "clunky" dualogics; that these obviously must be problematic or out of adjustment cars. Because ours works perfectly. So this shows they can and do work perfectly.

Only know issues with the Dualogic gearbox (that I know of):-

(1) Offroad driving; where the friction of beach/earth/ (or whatever) can be too much to allow the car to turn the wheels. It just sits there; engine reving, then clutch smoking. Similarly someone on here had same problems towing.

(2); about 3 times in nine months of ownership......I have had to accelerate hard out of a couple of dangerous limited visiblity junctions.. At the last moment I have had to hit the brake because of a fast moving vehicle coming into view.

The car stalls. Obviously the clutch is fully engaged at that point, and as you hit the brake, quickly and hard just as the car is trying to power and "spool" up it just cant let the clutch go quickly enough. Result stall.

Otherwise the transmission is perfect. No juddering, jumping, bouncing at any speed or pull off.

This shows the Dualogic transmission can be "as perfect" as it was intended. I feel the ratios are perfect on the Panda.

I wonder if the people that have had clutch juddering; have totally worn out clutches? Clutches can judder (not just slip) when they are worn on any car. As can oil on the clutch.

If it is those last two points; that is standard clutch wear that causes that; and not the fault of a dualogic transmission.

Dualogic (*overall) has a big thumbs up from me.
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I can't really understand why anyone would want a manual transmission any more than they would want a manual choke, or crank handles to wind the windows down.


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Depends on the car and the situation.

Manual transmission...less to go wrong; and gives you better options in off road driving situations.

Sometimes a "normal" automatic as well as a a manual (but not a semiautomatic); will allow one to boot the power in to (on purpose) break traction. That is sometimes needed in certain situations. (eg embedded on a mixed shingle/sand beach)

I am fortunate enough to have driven to Asia and through a fair bit of Africa etc. Sometimes with a dead engine in a river, or with a working engine in mud; having the ability to put it in first gear; and turn the starter motor over to pull you out is the way to do it.

I can also say that having had total battery failure on a full automatic car; it means you get stuck and can not change gear (all down to the battery); and similarly a failed battery on the Dualogic Panda sent the transmission and EBD ABS etc into spasms. For that manual cars on manual chokes etc definitely best

Manual chokes too can be an advantage. Not reliant upon sensors. More flexible for altitudes etc. One can set an artificially high tick over.

I once was alone and stuck on a really slippery surface. Only way to get the car out was to put it in first gear; set at highest rpm on a manual choke. Leave the wheels spinning as I pushed it along alone.

As for manual windows.....if you sleep in a car they are ideal. And less to go wrong too. You try sleeping on the back seat and then leaning forward to turn the ignition on to open the window an inch.

Many people will have had a failed window regulator from electric windows.

It is a common theme you see at music festivals too. Flat batteries. Caused not just by sound systems; but people leaving the ignition on trying to put the windows up/down at night.

You did not mention cranking handles lol. Several of my cars have had them too (as well as electric start). Very useful for working on the engine and turning it over.

I like cranking handles too ;-)

When I was a student I made some money sometimes by charging up flat batteries from automatic cars stuck coming off ferries. Put the battery on my car; started my car on the cranking handle. Charged their battery; and gave it back.

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In answer to the OP ( "are you happy with your duologic transmission?" ) I have to say yes, on the whole it works pretty well. Is it as good as some of the more sophisticated non-manual transmissions on the market? No, probably not. The automatic gearbox in my Honda ( Accord 2.4 Tourer ) is far smoother and much more intelligent - but it cost a good deal more. The Duologic in our Panda is very similar in operation to the semi-automatic transmission in the Smart Roadster that we had previously. It's not 100% perfect, but it works in a perfectly acceptable manner...
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Re: Are you happy with your dualogic transmission?

Have this gearbox in its 6 speed guise on my Qubo, love it, no problems at all......why have a manual in traffic when you can be clutch pedal free.....
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I am not at all happy with Fiat Dualogic transmission. My Fiat 500C is in the garage having a new clutch and flywheel fitted with only 2700 miles on the clock. My faith in the car has been destroyed and I am returning it to motability despite only owning it since March!!! I ordered a Peugeot 308 auto to replace it which should be here around the middle of August.

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I am not at all happy with Fiat Dualogic transmission. My Fiat 500C is in the garage having a new clutch and flywheel fitted with only 2700 miles on the clock. My faith in the car has been destroyed and I am returning it to motability despite only owning it since March!!! I ordered a Peugeot 308 auto to replace it which should be here around the middle of August.

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Good luck, the Pug probably has the same gearbox, I know one or two of their models do.

Not sure why you're giving up so soon though, any new car can have issues, and this is what a warranty is for tbh. Good luck with the new car though
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Good luck, the Pug probably has the same gearbox, I know one or two of their models do.

Not sure why you're giving up so soon though, any new car can have issues, and this is what a warranty is for tbh. Good luck with the new car though
Thanks and the Pug has the new fully auto Aisin 6 speed
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Thanks and the Pug has the new fully auto Aisin 6 speed
so does my croma, the guy who owned it before me spent a couple of grand getting it fixed the year before he sold it
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I am not at all happy with Fiat Dualogic transmission. My Fiat 500C is in the garage having a new clutch and flywheel fitted with only 2700 miles on the clock. My faith in the car has been destroyed and I am returning it to motability despite only owning it since March!!! I ordered a Peugeot 308 auto to replace it which should be here around the middle of August.

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Clutch AND Flywheel..??

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Hello guys I'm following this forum for a long time it's been very helpful, i have punto mk2b 1.3mjet with dualogic gearbox, what is the best way to start engine, with changing to N and start or to start when is at first gear? And one more thing in cold days I'm starting buy waiting to valve finishes thay job than switch to N and start but i notice that the engine struggling to start it need 7-8 sec, is it problem maybe in battery, don't have power for start? Thanks!
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In answer to the OP ( "are you happy with your duologic transmission?" ) I have to say yes, on the whole it works pretty well. Is it as good as some of the more sophisticated non-manual transmissions on the market? No, probably not. The automatic gearbox in my Honda ( Accord 2.4 Tourer ) is far smoother and much more intelligent - but it cost a good deal more. The Duologic in our Panda is very similar in operation to the semi-automatic transmission in the Smart Roadster that we had previously. It's not 100% perfect, but it works in a perfectly acceptable manner...
And - to add a further note...
Our Panda was ten years old with just 3800 miles on it when we bought it back in January. Since then the mileage has gone up to just short of 7000 miles and the duologic box has got smoother over that time. All in all, I'm pretty impressed with it.
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Hello guys I'm following this forum for a long time it's been very helpful, i have punto mk2b 1.3mjet with dualogic gearbox, what is the best way to start engine, with changing to N and start or to start when is at first gear? And one more thing in cold days I'm starting buy waiting to valve finishes thay job than switch to N and start but i notice that the engine struggling to start it need 7-8 sec, is it problem maybe in battery, don't have power for start? Thanks!
When you switch off do this in gear, and as soon as its switched off moving the level into N so its in the correct position ready for when you restart
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I'll try that, thanks!
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