Seen as tomorrow is the big referendum on the Voting System in the UK, just wondered which way people are thinking. Obviously i know that voting is supposed to be anonymous but lets have a mini referendum on here 
AV voting?
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AV voting?
As someone on my Facebook said "I'm not even sure which voting system is best... but I know that if the Tories are against AV ... it must be fair and just.."
I voted the wrong one by accident . I went to vote for NO
. I went to vote for NO
If the Tories are so against AV surely David Cameron should stand down?
As I understand (and I'm happy to be corrected) the tories agreed to a vote to get the liberals into a coalition. I will be voting against the change, but it will make no difference the goverment will always get in.
Yeah.. very apt
A YES win will certainly hurt Cameron (possible defect to the Lib-Dems if the Tory elders kick him out at the end of the term) but it should at least provide a stable coalition.
A NO win could conceivably bring down the government fairly quickly (Lib-Dems will most likely self destruct as a party) - and although that may well let Labour back in - it would be a massive disaster for the country as a whole
I vote for AV if we dont have it where the hell am i going to plug my freeview in?
Good, I would vote no just to see that happen.
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UK has an elected dictatorship where only a small %age of voters get any say the results. Safe seats on both sides see to that. Once voted in, the leading party can do what they like. Its a Victorian system that's never moved on with the times. It leads to idiot ideas like Poll Tax and lax financial management that allowed the banks to get too big.
AV is a small step in a directions of more genuine democracy. Hopefully it wont get thrown out by folks who believe the old guard's scare mongering.
AV is a small step in a directions of more genuine democracy. Hopefully it wont get thrown out by folks who believe the old guard's scare mongering.
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what makes you say that? I think the coallition is pretty stable now tbh, and why would a NO vote victory cause the lib-dems to self destruct? there sharing the power, more than they have ever had, I think itl just carry on as it is now.Yeah.. very apt
A YES win will certainly hurt Cameron (possible defect to the Lib-Dems if the Tory elders kick him out at the end of the term) but it should at least provide a stable coalition.
A NO win could conceivably bring down the government fairly quickly (Lib-Dems will most likely self destruct as a party) - and although that may well let Labour back in - it would be a massive disaster for the country as a whole
Tbh though, isnt a genuine democracy an idea, rather than an actaul possible thing? The communists believed 'everyone equal' would work, but that needed a leader, and the leaders were dictators, who made everyone not equal, that was another decent theory, which is idealogic, but not possible. how can anyone live in a true democracy in this day and age, when you cant say this, cant do this, cant offend these people? a true democracy is where everyone is free to say/do as they wish, which with todays EU laws, just isnt possible
A little short sighted though don't you think.
What about all the real suffering that would take place if this country is thrown into recession again.
The AV vote should be based purely on it's merits and not on party politics.
Hurt the Lib-Dems at the next election by all means - and AV allows you to do that quite well (just make sure they're not a preference
)The problem is that many liberals aren't at all happy working with the Tories (all the bad press on cuts and everything
).Many wanted to work with Labour and are really only providing support in the coalition due the voting reform issue.
A NO win would mean they've given everything away and gained nothing.
I really think things could start to fall apart - and as said - that certainly wont benefit the country as a whole
..and at the very time we need stability
i think i might just write ministry of magic down
In that post yes, it was.
I will not be voting if favour of AV.
My reason are my own obviously, AV will change nothing. It may put different people in charge, but the party in place will always wrong someone.
Extreme example, Green party, the environmentalists love them, me and many other motorist will not.
Regardess of how they are voted into power they will do as they please and sod the people who put them there.
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As we already have a version of this over here for our elections (single transferrable vote) I say no, else every idiot gets in (we use it for council and assembly elections). The lib dems only want it as its the only way they will get in (i.e. as everyones second choice) like in the irish elections of 1990 where the candidate with the most first preferences did not get elected.
As people do not understand the system expect to get a lot of spoiled votes as well!
Im loving how we are voting about voting here lol
As people do not understand the system expect to get a lot of spoiled votes as well!
Im loving how we are voting about voting here lol
Hypocrites! Our local GP candidate publishes a magazine which is delivered to every house in our postcode wether you want it or not. Not exactly environmentally friendly.
Their strategy over here is hilarious. Basically they want to stop concentrating on the economy (their words) and instead concentrate on insulating everybodys houses and planting more trees.
So, it doesnt matter if you cant afford to eat or feed your children so long as we can plant trees. Oh and all this insulating will create jobs apparently. Im sure the German economy (via Knauf) will benefit greatly from their plan! So what happens when everybodys house is insulated. Well, we wont need all those people to insulate houses, and guess what we dont need as much gas or oil or electricity so they can loose their jobs as well. Great strategy that!
Anyways, Im way off topic but these guys take me to the fair!
bit late now but what happens if you dont pick a second choice, is your vote canceled?
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I voted no, just because I think that the amount of money it would cost to change the system could be better spent elsewhere . . . on equipment for the armed forces for example.
Or getting rid of all the potholes
Or getting rid of all the potholes
as far as im aware with AV if you just put one vote down then your vote basically becomes first past the post
AV is not proportional though (like STV) so it wouldn't have made a major change - just resolved tactical voting.
just counts the same as now although not sure what happens if you put an "X" instead of "1"
The cost argument has been accepted as made up by the NO campaign.I voted no, just because I think that the amount of money it would cost to change the system could be better spent elsewhere . . . on equipment for the armed forces for example.
Or getting rid of all the potholes
What's dumb is that most of it has just been spent (on the Referendum itself) so if the answer is NO then it really was a waste.
