Number plates, legal or not?!

dombooth · Apr 16, 2011

Hi all,

Are my number plates legal? I know the answer but I want to know what others think about them.

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Dom

JustAndy · Apr 16, 2011

It doesnt have the postcode of where they were made which i believe is a requirement so id say no there not legal

black_cinq · Apr 16, 2011

Illegal.

Eklipze3k · Apr 16, 2011

Looks like the name and postcode of the manufacturer is in the bottom right, mine are quite similar and are perfectly legal.

Or at least, they were when they were made ...

Edit to add picture:

Stu DemonD · Apr 16, 2011

Eklipze3k said:
Looks like the name and postcode of the manufacturer is in the bottom right, mine are quite similar and are perfectly legal.

But what about the FIAT logo? That isn't an 'approved flag' surely.

Saying that, I know my plates aren't legit - Abarth Scorpion and Fiatforum.com at the bottom - with no postcode. Have been running plates like that for over 5+ years.

Eklipze3k · Apr 16, 2011

Stu DemonD said:
But what about the FIAT logo? That isn't an 'approved flag' surely.

Quite right, but I'm fairly sure that rule only came into force end of 2009, so if he bought the plates prior to that they were legal at time of purchase.

dave · Apr 16, 2011

i thought it was 1999 or 2000, thats what someone on here said about my plates

xSianx · Apr 17, 2011

Can you get pulled over for illegal plates or not? if so what do you get?

Eklipze3k · Apr 17, 2011

xSianx said:
Can you get pulled over for illegal plates or not? if so what do you get?

Yes, £60 FPN

beau · Apr 17, 2011

iv never under stood why everyone needs loads of stuff on there plates, mine have just the digits on, no border, nothing, and it looks best, and saves £60 fine, i dont mind the carbon fibre writing (and that is legal) just dont see the point in have other stuff on them.

dronenrs · Apr 17, 2011

i would say illegal but not many coppers would stop you for it. the logo section looks a little too big for me

dave · Apr 17, 2011

xSianx said:
Can you get pulled over for illegal plates or not? if so what do you get?

depends how you react when you get pulled, i used to just get a telling off, i only got pulled by police on foot though who would be walking past in town. i just let them explain all what was wrong and promised I'd go home an change them.
I got bored of that in the end and just got plain ones with reg only off ebay, no post code or nothing, but i don't get told off no more

dombooth · Apr 17, 2011

FiatlessAndy said:
It doesnt have the postcode of where they were made which i believe is a requirement so id say no there not legal

Doesn't need it, it's got the company and company number on the bottom right.

black_cinq said:
Illegal.

In what way?

Eklipze3k said:
Looks like the name and postcode of the manufacturer is in the bottom right, mine are quite similar and are perfectly legal.

Or at least, they were when they were made ...

Edit to add picture:

^^ Not legal for the same reasons as me. ^^

Stu DemonD said:
But what about the FIAT logo? That isn't an 'approved flag' surely.

Saying that, I know my plates aren't legit - Abarth Scorpion and Fiatforum.com at the bottom - with no postcode. Have been running plates like that for over 5+ years.

Eklipze3k said:
Quite right, but I'm fairly sure that rule only came into force end of 2009, so if he bought the plates prior to that they were legal at time of purchase.

Not sure about that bit.

dave said:
i thought it was 1999 or 2000, thats what someone on here said about my plates

Or that.

xSianx said:
Can you get pulled over for illegal plates or not? if so what do you get?

Yes, £60 FPN.

Eklipze3k said:
Yes, £60 FPN

:yeahthat:

beau said:
iv never under stood why everyone needs loads of stuff on there plates, mine have just the digits on, no border, nothing, and it looks best, and saves £60 fine, i dont mind the carbon fibre writing (and that is legal) just dont see the point in have other stuff on them.

Make them look a bit better, stand out.

dronenrs said:
i would say illegal but not many coppers would stop you for it. the logo section looks a little too big for me

dave said:
depends how you react when you get pulled, i used to just get a telling off, i only got pulled by police on foot though who would be walking past in town. i just let them explain all what was wrong and promised I'd go home an change them.
I got bored of that in the end and just got plain ones with reg only off ebay, no post code or nothing, but i don't get told off no more

I've not been stopped yet so I'm happy enough.

Dom

Noddy · Apr 18, 2011

The way to look at it is that you have given them an excuse to pull you for it, once they have pulled you in for it then they will check over the rest of the car looking for what else they can find. Also they have a crackdown on these things every now and then. I know I got done for my front tints and the copper admited they were just looking at tints that week.

dombooth · Apr 18, 2011

Spentona said:
The way to look at it is that you have given them an excuse to pull you for it, once they have pulled you in for it then they will check over the rest of the car looking for what else they can find. Also they have a crackdown on these things every now and then. I know I got done for my front tints and the copper admited they were just looking at tints that week.

There is nothing else wrong with the car, what do you think is illegal about it?

Dom

DaveMcT · Apr 19, 2011

The MOT has 10 (maybe 15) items on number plates. Non can be advisories and are all pass/fail. Plates are about control - its odd how a safety test has become a style police test.

Non compliant plates however give the police the opportunity to stop you and then check the car for defects. With older cars there's a good chance they'll find something.

If you have a bike with a tiny (but cool) plate you WILL get stopped and they WILL fine you £60. If you have plates that are easily readable (car or bike) e.g. normal size, no silly cursive fonts you will probably be ok. But technically there is no difference - its still an illegal plate.

If your plate falls off they have to tell you & let you go on your way. No fine but maybe a caution. If you have an illegal plate its a deliberate action on your part so you get fined. No ifs, no buts.

BTW, a plate attached with velcro might also be a problem.

dombooth · Apr 25, 2011

WhiteSei said:
The MOT has 10 (maybe 15) items on number plates. Non can be advisories and are all pass/fail. Plates are about control - its odd how a safety test has become a style police test.

Non compliant plates however give the police the opportunity to stop you and then check the car for defects. With older cars there's a good chance they'll find something.

If you have a bike with a tiny (but cool) plate you WILL get stopped and they WILL fine you £60. If you have plates that are easily readable (car or bike) e.g. normal size, no silly cursive fonts you will probably be ok. But technically there is no difference - its still an illegal plate.

If your plate falls off they have to tell you & let you go on your way. No fine but maybe a caution. If you have an illegal plate its a deliberate action on your part so you get fined. No ifs, no buts.

BTW, a plate attached with velcro might also be a problem.

It's not attached with velcro.

Dom

mzhussein · Apr 26, 2011

dombooth said:
Hi all,

Are my number plates legal? I know the answer but I want to know what others think about them.

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Dom

Illegal,

the plate DOES need to have the company name and postcode (not sure about contact number), this legislation was introduced in 2006, so if they are pre-2006 then youll be ok on that front.

Also the flag on the left is not a legal.

Also i think any border has to be round the whole plate not just the lettering, but not sure on that one

and im guessing that you didnt supply your V5 to the guy that made it, so using the plates is illegal, as they are technically show plates....

the likely hood you'll get pulled over for it however is quite low as from what little i can see, the font and spacing is sensible, so no reason to "get picky" over small details like manf. and flags etc.

I run pressed aluminium plates, that to all intents and purposes are 100% legal (except that i didn't give the guy a V5) but they meet all the regs

sludgeguts · Apr 26, 2011

I'm not bothered what your plates look like or how legal/illegal they are but with fewer police patrols out and about, there is a heavier reliance on technology to recover stolen vehicles. If ANPR cannot read your plate, it might not set off alarms in the patrol car or at the camera monitoring place so the chances of getting back your prized posession are significantly lowered.
On the other hand, many speed cameras detect a vehicle's speed and simply take a photograph of the vehicle, relying on an operator (and possibly enhancement software) to pick out the registration number.
So, whilst an 'adjusted' plate might look 'cool' or 'trendy', is it worth taking the risk? (not to mention the risks already mentioned in previous posts)

dombooth · Apr 26, 2011

sludgeguts said:
I'm not bothered what your plates look like or how legal/illegal they are but with fewer police patrols out and about, there is a heavier reliance on technology to recover stolen vehicles. If ANPR cannot read your plate, it might not set off alarms in the patrol car or at the camera monitoring place so the chances of getting back your prized posession are significantly lowered.
On the other hand, many speed cameras detect a vehicle's speed and simply take a photograph of the vehicle, relying on an operator (and possibly enhancement software) to pick out the registration number.
So, whilst an 'adjusted' plate might look 'cool' or 'trendy', is it worth taking the risk? (not to mention the risks already mentioned in previous posts)

The plate and lettering is all legal, the only illegal part is the logo on the left.

Dom

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