as long as they are LED i don't mind. I drive with my sidelights on all the time, and when i used normal bulbs - it damaged the bulb holders after a while.
DayTime Running Lamps [DRL's]
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DayTime Running Lamps [DRL's]
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I know you can turn them on manually, but defeats the whole 'Auto' thing.
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Hardy. Its not there to replace your own judgement is it? All the cars we have with auto lights on put them on when its not very dark at all.
mines light azzure blue
but i bet it reflects light and can dazzle others. someone needs to experiemnt with this, because if the sun id dazzling, you wont see headlights surely, as headlights are nowhere ear as powerful or bright as the sun, so wont be seen over the dazzliness of the sun. (if that makes sense)
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Depends where sun is reflecting. If off windscreen you'll see lights still, as dazzle doesn't just block your vision compleatly in the day.
but then if you could see the lights,m as the dazzle is just off windscreen, then wont you still be able to see car then without it on?
i can see this going around in circles lol. its a grey area, and i can see points and truths in both sides.
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When you see the sun reflecting off of a metalic object 1/2 mile down the road how can you tell its a car, or just a house window?
Doesn't happen often, but has happened in the past.
erm...... you have a good point there :chin:
The key would be if its metallic, it's not going to be a window
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The key would be if its metallic, it's not going to be a window
Well when sun is glaring off of something I can't tell if its a window, or metal if its 1/2 mile down the road
Fiats already come with DRL, I just leave the light switch on sidelights all the time, and ping it to headlights at night. I've always driven with lights on, I used to drive small cars and found that I wouldn't be seen. I put this down to the Asphalt Grey Ford Ka I had for a while. Problem went away with headlights on all the time.
It may add cost in fuel, but its going to be a minimal percentage, just go to the shops by foot once a month and the lose is regained.
Seen lots of Audis with them, they look okay, neither hear nor there really. On cost front, LEDs would be a good bet.
I hate the high up cars like landrovers lights, they are blinding, DRLs should be mounted low down, not up high near headlights.
It may add cost in fuel, but its going to be a minimal percentage, just go to the shops by foot once a month and the lose is regained.
Seen lots of Audis with them, they look okay, neither hear nor there really. On cost front, LEDs would be a good bet.
I hate the high up cars like landrovers lights, they are blinding, DRLs should be mounted low down, not up high near headlights.
I run a set of white L.E.D. sides for any sort of slightly dark conditions i.e. when its not bright and sunny these are more than enough, Otherwise its a waste of time. I could run with them on all the time but unless its overcast or a dark day there is no point.
I had an experience with these the other day funny enough, I was turning right into a side road tht had a new Boxster coming out of it, its DRL`s were low, but it was twilight & they were so bright they dazzled me as well as distracting me...
The cars I`ve seen DRL`s on dont seem to have any beam diffusion, say like a fog lights horizontal beam pattern, so the light is sent out in all dirrections.
I now see them as worse than people driving around with their fog lights on & people who retrofit crap HID lights that wreck the beam pattern & dazzle everyone round them....
I, like some of you, have converted my main cars to LED lighting, primarily to reduce strain on my wiring & charging systems, & so use my sidelights when light conditions arent perfect.
The cars I`ve seen DRL`s on dont seem to have any beam diffusion, say like a fog lights horizontal beam pattern, so the light is sent out in all dirrections.
I now see them as worse than people driving around with their fog lights on & people who retrofit crap HID lights that wreck the beam pattern & dazzle everyone round them....
I, like some of you, have converted my main cars to LED lighting, primarily to reduce strain on my wiring & charging systems, & so use my sidelights when light conditions arent perfect.
same here
if its a dull miserable day, perhaps raining, then I would use my sidelights, and I would stike down upon anyone with great vengeance and furious anger, somebody who crashed into me and says "I didnt see you"
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Just like those who do in fog also
Might be perhaps because you went seen in all the fog or road spray / pooring rain as you only had side lights on.
I personally can't see how people think they're adiquate in these sort of conditions, was just the same today in the rain
I like them and think they're a good idea (even though better driver education would be a better idea), but mine nearly caused a crash once when some silly cow thought I was flashing her when I went over a speed bump.
There should also be an option to turn the rear lights on seperately. The number of times I've needed my rear lights on but not my dipped beams is ridiculous, but I can't do it. I'm forced to either drive with just the front DRLs on or both dipped beams and normal rears, and then the front lights might be dazzling people unnecessarily!
There should also be an option to turn the rear lights on seperately. The number of times I've needed my rear lights on but not my dipped beams is ridiculous, but I can't do it. I'm forced to either drive with just the front DRLs on or both dipped beams and normal rears, and then the front lights might be dazzling people unnecessarily!
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I like them and think they're a good idea (even though better driver education would be a better idea), but mine nearly caused a crash once when some silly cow thought I was flashing her when I went over a speed bump.
There should also be an option to turn the rear lights on seperately. The number of times I've needed my rear lights on but not my dipped beams is ridiculous, but I can't do it. I'm forced to either drive with just the front DRLs on or both dipped beams and normal rears, and then the front lights might be dazzling people unnecessarily!
Yeah I thought that was pretty poor that on the 500 you couldn't have DRL's and sidelights on at the same time like the new Punto EVO which you can, so you can have the rear lights on aswell.
DRL's simply make your car more visible, you could be coming round a corner where a badly placed junction is and someone will just catch a glimps of the DRL's and no incident occurs. On the motorway during any normal or sunny or cloudy weather cars infront can see you apporaching in the overtaking lane and are less likely to pullout infront of you.
The UK succesfully fought off a law change where everyone who drove an older car without DRL's had to drive with dipped beam on all the time. Purely because theres not enough police to enforce it lol.
But if all cars had there lights on during the day (like sweden or denmark) then every car would always be visible all the time.
And for the poeple who say that people who don't notice a car during normal daylight shouldn't be on the road. I can guarantee you that you have pulled out and all of a sudden there is a car right behind you from nowhere and had it of had DRL's then you'd have been aware of it's presence all along as it got closer and that's safer as you may have had a better judge of it's speed and not even pulled out infront all along.
But then there's the arguement that motorbike riders during the day will be masked by a car with DRL's as it could block one of the car behind it's DRL and an oncomming car may thing the bikes light is the DRL of the car behind and the bike would go unoticed, but then this is a danger at night anyway so ....
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You could drive along with flashing strobes playing a jaunty tune at 120DB and people would still pull out on you, because the basic fact of the matter is no one drives at 100% concentration and ability all the time. Back when I had a silver grey punto I had headlamps on whenever it was even mildly overcast or dark as I figured it blended pretty well with a grey sky. Yet I still remember very clearly following a car with no lights on down alongside a traffic queue in the rain. A car indicating to pull into my lane then allowed the car running with no lights ahead to pass before pulling straight into my lane no more than 15ft ahead.
Daylight running lights will not solve the basic fact that many people drive without using mirrors, with a bare minimum of observation or awareness of their surroundings. But if you want no option other than to pay extra for a what amounts to a redundant set of sidelights that go off when you turn the proper sidelights on that's your choice, except of course it isn't as the choice has already been made.
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makes you wonder if this guy saw the car a fraction earlier due to the headlights been on
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