My friend has just agreed to buy a 54 plate (Jan 05) Panda, virtually unseen. This in itself isn't a problem as it's from a friend (who has now left the country). We just need a couple of bits of info: there are no badges, but I guess that it's the most basic model...
It's an 1108cc, it has a cassette player (this is a good thing!), no aircon, it has electric front windows (driver's is stuck but the motor whirrs).
Neither of us are with the car at the moment. The insurers have asked a couple of strange questions about ABS and an alarm - will it have either? What model is it?
Thanks

ABS yes; Alarm no, though it will have an immobiliser.

If it's a UK car then it's almost certainly a 1.1 Active.
Window problem is probably a plastic clip. Not sure where to fet them at the moment but hopefully someone will.
ABS - should have (check that ABS light illuminates when you get to the car and switch ignition on if in doubt)
Immobiliser is standard, so no alarm unless it has been fitted separately.

Enter the reg into http://www.autotrader.co.uk/vehiclecheck and it will give you the model

Active for sure. It should have black plastic bumpers and no central locking (unless the previous owner installed it).

Thank You!
Yep - black bumpers, no remote locking. It came up as Active on the Auto Trader link too.
Sorted now; MOT'd til April 2018, insured today and will be taxed by Friday, ready to collect.

jrkitching said:

ABS yes

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Not necessarily. The early 1.1 Actives didn't have ABS, although it came in sometime in 2005/2006 I believe.

Most Easterly Pandas said:

Not necessarily. The early 1.1 Actives didn't have ABS, although it came in sometime in 2005/2006 I believe.

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The cutoff date under EU law is 1st July 2004 for cars, 1st July 2006 for vans (with some exemptions for low volume cars that aren't relevant here).

Not sure if that is date of manufacture, or date of first registration. Also some cars will have been preregistered just before the final cutoff. IIRC Fiat scrapped a significant number of unsold new cars about that time.

When ABS became mandatory for motorcycles over 125cc last year, there was a 12 month grace period to enable existing stock to be sold, but from 1st Jan 2017 new bikes over 125cc can't legally be sold without it.

jrkitching said:

The cutoff date under EU law is 1st July 2004 for cars, 1st July 2006 for vans (with some exemptions for low volume cars that aren't relevant here).

Not sure if that is date of manufacture, or date of first registration. Also some cars will have been preregistered just before the final cutoff. IIRC Fiat scrapped a significant number of unsold new cars about that time.

When ABS became mandatory for motorcycles over 125cc last year, there was a 12 month grace period to enable existing stock to be sold, but from 1st Jan 2017 new bikes over 125cc can't legally be sold without it.

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Way off topic

Not saying any major manufacture were producing cars without ABS after 2006

But the only EU documents I could find were "Pedestrian Protection Regulation (EC) 78/2009"

Manufactures that produce less than 500 car sold are exempt

I see 2006 all over Google. Was that just the UK ? Urban myth?