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Old 06-02-2017   #1
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Panda 100HP air intake

Hi all,
Recently bought an 09 Panda 100HP. Absolutely love it and a bit of a power increase from my old 126.

Have a small list of things to work through on the Panda (Fog lights have rusted/de-chromed, the front wipers return to rest 2 inches higher than they're supposed to).

Today's job though was trawling eBay for an air intake. Seems the previous owner removed the initial air feed for whatever reason. eBay not being much help though. Can anyone point me in the right direction / give me some advice on what I need to be searching for? (searching for panda air ducts / air feeds / air intake - not showing the exact one I'm looking for)



Red rectangle : feed missing on my car.
Red square : there has been a botch job at one point where the small pipe has disconnected and the previous owner has pasted it together. Which must've become brittle over time and has now come loose.

Cheers for any help in advance
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Re: Panda 100HP air intake

ebay is probably your best bet. email a breaker, you may have to buy the whole airbox though, unless you find a local one were you can get the bits yourself.

alternatively, you can make up an intake duct yourself. this gives you a slightly throughtier sound and keeps the cold air intake advantages:

http://www.fiatforum.com/panda/31944...nder-30-a.html

same goes for the bodged up pipe. you can either buy from a breaker, or make something up. unfortunately, not many second hand bits about and what is about doesnt tend to be cheap
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Re: Panda 100HP air intake

I'd go for what is called "the Cooperman induction mod" on this forum. I did and (although I'm a granddad) love it .
Not sure if there are partnumbers on the original parts, but I could take a look.

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Go for it, the Cooperman induction mode is the way to go, I'm half way through mine, sourcing parts for ebay & ASH (even done the Carbon wrap on the alloy joiners, looks amazeballs).

If you need hoses size etc, I think most of us with 100hp's have done this mode and them if needed.
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Re: Panda 100HP air intake

Thanks for all the input.
Bit the bullet and ordered the parts for this Cooperman method.

So, one job ticked of the list.
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Re: Panda 100HP air intake

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Re: Panda 100HP air intake

Or you could go the hog, but proceed with caution. This is an arduous task, not the mod itself but getting the front trim off is really fiddly....

Have I noticed a difference with a more direct airflow, not really
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Or you could go the hog, but proceed with caution. This is an arduous task, not the mod itself but getting the front trim off is really fiddly....

Have I noticed a difference with a more direct airflow, not really
The OEM air intake is likely to be more than up to the job. The only way to improve performance is with a sports exhaust MANIFOLD and underbody catalyst. Not cheap but it will work and need not be noisy with a sensible system behind it.
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Re: Panda 100HP air intake

DaveMcT,

Agreed, when I referred to "difference" I was meaning sound tone...no way in hell I'd be expecting more horses Maybe some fuel savings? (but I doubt it)

But the mod/mods are cheap'ish, look good & give me an excuse to throw money into a bottomless pit
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Re: Panda 100HP air intake

I like to get something tangible for my money. A proper sports exhaust system (engine to tail pipe) will include catalyst but it wont meed the Euro specs. However in UK, as long as the MOT meets the emissions criteria you are good to go. Cars with spots exhausts usually run cleaner modified than when they were standard. Sadly, some idiots remove the catalyst without remapping and smoke the street. Any car sans cat will be dirty, but a car with catalyst removed without retuning will be filthy.

The lasted Euro emissions specs have improved the cold start issues. In cities this is a big problem as cars are often used for short runs. But the actual benefits are really marginal and the downside is an engine that feels clogged up (because it is), fuel consumption is higher and performance is lower. The Fiat Fire engine already heats up quickly so the additional benefits of Euro 4/5 are minimal.
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I like to get something tangible for my money. A proper sports exhaust system (engine to tail pipe) will include catalyst but it wont meed the Euro specs. However in UK, as long as the MOT meets the emissions criteria you are good to go. Cars with spots exhausts usually run cleaner modified than when they were standard. Sadly, some idiots remove the catalyst without remapping and smoke the street. Any car sans cat will be dirty, but a car with catalyst removed without retuning will be filthy.



The lasted Euro emissions specs have improved the cold start issues. In cities this is a big problem as cars are often used for short runs. But the actual benefits are really marginal and the downside is an engine that feels clogged up (because it is), fuel consumption is higher and performance is lower. The Fiat Fire engine already heats up quickly so the additional benefits of Euro 4/5 are minimal.


There are only two ways to gain horsepower on a 100hp and that's expensive organic tuning or an engine swap.
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There are only two ways to gain horsepower on a 100hp and that's expensive organic tuning or an engine swap.
And organic/mechanical tuning would also include the exhaust system as first step. After that its cams and stuff at serious cost. Anything significant will need remap to notice any difference.
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And organic/mechanical tuning would also include the exhaust system as first step. After that its cams and stuff at serious cost. Anything significant will need remap to notice any difference.


A cam swap together with air intake and exhaust will maybe liberate an extra 4-5hp for a 1000 plus outlay, the 100hp can't be remapped.
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Like so...
Can you please tell me the measures of the diameters needed for that work? Thnx
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A cam swap together with air intake and exhaust will maybe liberate an extra 4-5hp for a 1000 plus outlay, the 100hp can't be remapped.
The air intake will release nothing but noise.

The tuned exhaust can have a significant effect but will need a tuning box to in effect remap the ECU. 500 for manifold, plus system, plus tuning box, plus dyno time - your costs will start from around 1000.

This looks like a Lambda shifter which adjusts the O2 readings seen by the ECU to release more power. Generally a fancy exhaust manifold will make the engine run weak' Lambda shifting deals with that. Who knows if this is rubbish but for 80 you might want to try it

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chip-Tunin...sAAOSwWxNY0Tiq All caveats apply of course.

If you want proper power buy an Abarth 500. If want even more power from a small car buy a Mini Cooper.

The Fiat 500 100BHP engine can be mapped to make 113bhp. With a free flowing exhaust manifold the gains would be higher. It *should* be possible to do similar things with a Panda 100HP.

This says that Protoxide do an add-on tuning box (such as Power Commander) for the 100HP Panda.
http://www.fiatforum.com/panda/23210...ill-no-no.html

Another way is a low pressure turbo with new ECU. It wont be cheap or easy but a search on FF will show it has been done.
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