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Not holding out much hope for a reply, as I've just seen, I last posted a year ago...and there's still not ONE reply! :-o

Anyway...

Can anyone help please? I've just lifted the bonnet and wriggled under my Panda 4x4 on a 55 plate (2005) to service it, and it would appear I have a box full of the wrong parts :-o arrgh. This is after I put in my car reg to Get the CORRECT parts from a site...

Where can I get a service manual for a 2005 4x4 panda? Is there one? The Haynes one I've found doesn't cover it.

What is the correct Oil Filter for this one? :) (part numbers on a postcard please :) )

How the hell do I get at the plugs? Don't laugh... every site I go on gives me Plugs...but they sure don't look like anything I've seen before!

Cheers for any help...
 
Sorry guys!

PETROL :)

PS
Thank you very much for both bothering to reply. I really appreciate it!
 
The workshop manual for these cars is a computer program called eLearn and the parts catalogue is ePer.

I have a copy of eLearn installed on my work computer so tomorrow I'll try and find you the correct part number for the oil filter and the procedure for changing the spark plugs for a 1.2 Petrol 4x4 Panda
 
Hi and thanks very much! :-D :-D :-D

I bought a copy of that earlier from ebay, but so far, am finding it as much use as a chocolate fire guard! The copy I bought (from CrystalViktor) doesn't seem to even cover my engine or the 4x4. All I want to do is service the damn thing! Looking like I'm going to have to get the garage to do it at this rate :-( Not a happy bunny right now.
Classic cars and bikes are MUCH easier! So are land rovers!!!
 
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For now, why not read through this?

https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto-guides/234763-spark-plug-change-1-2-8v.html

It's the same engine, some small revisions as its a later model, but the spark plugs are in the same location and the airbox etc still uses the same sort of mechanism to remove.

This could help with the spark plugs, what else specifically would you like to know how to do as part of your service?

Don't pay a crappy mechanic, you are more than capable and with some help on here I bet you'll think this car a pleasure with its simplicity to service and own! :slayer:
 
Fiat used one of two oil filters, a narrow, slightly longer one and a shorter, fatter one.
If your car has a genuine filter, you should be able to get the part number off it.

If not try Ebay, there are some Fiat dealers selling parts (like SG Petch), so just email your reg number to them or try emailing Shop4parts.

You'll no doubt need an oil filter strap or chain to get the old filter moving, I've never yet managed to get a good enough grip on one with my hand.

I think the 4x4 needs the sump guard dropping first to get at the fliter and oil drain.
The drain plug takes a 12mm Allen key.

Genuine filters are dirt cheap, there's just no need for wonky pattern ones.
They won't break the bank if you use a parts dealer like Shop4parts or SG Petch.

Contribute a small donation to this forum and that'll get you a discount code for Shop4parts that saves you 10% that you can use over and over again.

The plugs aren't too hard to get at.
Remove the airbox front cover by undoing the clips either side, then undo the two 10mm bolts on top of the housing that are diagonal to each other on either side.

As you lift it there are two breather pipes attached underneath, these are just a push fit and pull off and on.

The throttle cable runs through a rubber gromet attached to the airbox, that just pops out and back in again later.

The plugs are down the back of the head.

The plug caps can be quite tight and often require a good tug to get them off, pull the cap not the lead.

You'll need a bit of reach on your plug socket.
Magnetic plug sockets are handy, but I use a length of rubber pipe to get the loose plugs out and start the new ones in the threads properly.

Careful not to drop 'em down the back, I've done that and it closed the gap up without me noticing (until too late).

When fitting new plugs, torque them up as normal, then back them off and retighten them again. This crushes the washer down first a little.

The head and threads in it are alloy, so be careful not to over tighten or cross thread the plugs.
I don't like torqueing up plugs in a hot alloy head, so let it cool off a bit first.

Take your time, there's not much to worry about, they are simple things to work on if you are logical.
 
If you send me a PM with your Panda's VIN I can tell you the precise part number for the oil filter, and even give you a link to Halfords / Shop4Parts / or eBay so you can buy it right away.

Please let me know if you still need the eLearn instructions, as the post above seems like it'll be enough for you to do the job :D


If you need help installing it, I can also make a visual guide as I've struggled with that myself.

p.s. The eLearn on the forum downloads section includes ALL types of Panda, especially the 4x4! Shows an extra section saying 'For 4x4 Models' with the likes of the extra covers, drive shaft to the rear wheels etc (y)
 
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