Hi everyone.
I'm posting this on behalf of my flatmate, who's Panda is seized up on our driveway right now.
She drove it home with no problems last night but on trying to reverse out the drive this morning the back right (passenger side -its a european left hand drive) wheel is seizing and causing the car to rear up at the back.
It can go forward down the drive with no problem, but in reverse it goes for about 1-2 feet then seizes. we've tried to force it through incase it was a stuck brake pad (but its weird that the friction is not continually there?)
Any ideas?
The weather has been warm and dry, and her handbrake has been bust for months so she parks with the car in gear.

If it's on drums it sounds like a shoe lining has come adrift, need to strip the drum down. I wouldn't re omens driving it anywhere in its current state

Asa James said:

If it's on drums it sounds like a shoe lining has come adrift, need to strip the drum down. I wouldn't re omens driving it anywhere in its current state

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Cheers for the reply, I'll see if someone can come out and have a look - any idea on expected cost if that was the problem, ballpark figure?

If it's just the friction material on the shoes it'll just need a new set, circa £30 for the parts (both sides will need done or braking will be uneven). I could do it in an hour on the driveway so shouldn't be too steep labour-wise.

many thanks.

dn1986 said:

many thanks.

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Drive the car forward..so the shoe material unjams..
then.safely raise the car..chock front wheels and leave car in gear..

Remove wheel and brake drum.

Charlie

Hi,
Something has come adrift in the brake assembly, probably the trailing end attachment of one shoe. This is likely related to the handbrake failure. A loose lining is likely to affect both directions to some degree, but a failed attachment will turn it into a sprag clutch type freewheel. It needs to be properly repaired either where it is or TRAILERED to a garage. The car is unsafe to drive or tow for even a short distance. The wheel could lock up without warning, causing loss of control and the car to go into other traffic or onto the pavement.


Robert G8RPI.

varesecrazy said:

Drive the car forward..so the shoe material unjams..

then.safely raise the car..chock front wheels and leave car in gear..



Remove wheel and brake drum.



Charlie

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Random side question I feel might be related..
Is this why when I park in gear and with the handbrake on sometimes I hear something being released / pressure busting upon initial movement?

SB1500 said:

Random side question I feel might be related..
Is this why when I park in gear and with the handbrake on sometimes I hear something being released / pressure busting upon initial movement?

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No, not a loose brake lining.
If you park up with damp brakes (driving through water, heavy rain) a thin layer of rust forms that can stick the pads to the drums or disks. This can cause a noise when it releases on first moving off. It only affects the pads that are operated by the hand brake. Can be quite loud on some cars.


Robert G8RPI.

g8rpi said:

If you park up with damp brakes (driving through water, heavy rain) a thin layer of rust forms that can stick the pads to the drums or disks. This can cause a noise when it releases on first moving off. It only affects the pads that are operated by the hand brake. Can be quite loud on some cars.

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Sometimes just parking on a humid day is enough.

The brake shoes will only stick if the handbrake is on, so parking with the handbrake off is a good idea if you're leaving the car for more than a week or so (be sure to chock the wheels).

Disc pads are always in close contact with the disc and can stick even if the brakes are off.

On a car that's been standing for six months or more, you should probably strip & clean the brakes before trying to move it. Forcing a car with stuck pads or shoes can, in the extreme case, permanently damage the brakes. Trying to move a car by force when the shoes are stuck to the drum can pull the lining off the shoe.