what is the general feeling of value of a 4x4 panda over the standard 2x4 model.

I'm considering a 4x4 and have seen 2 private sales locally. one is a 2006 for £2.5k and the other is a 2010 for nearer £5k. both have low mileage and are in top condition.

that looks to me like a premium of about £1200-1500 for the 4wd for the older c ar, and maybe nearer 2k for the newer one.

rendo said:

what is the general feeling of value of a 4x4 panda over the standard 2x4 model.

I'm considering a 4x4 and have seen 2 private sales locally. one is a 2006 for £2.5k and the other is a 2010 for nearer £5k. both have low mileage and are in top condition.

that looks to me like a premium of about £1200-1500 for the 4wd for the older c ar, and maybe nearer 2k for the newer one.

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You are in peak season for a 4x4..

Look at the 2wd trekking models for a true comparison..
Charlie

rendo said:

what is the general feeling of value of a 4x4 panda over the standard 2x4 model.

I'm considering a 4x4 and have seen 2 private sales locally. one is a 2006 for £2.5k and the other is a 2010 for nearer £5k. both have low mileage and are in top condition.

that looks to me like a premium of about £1200-1500 for the 4wd for the older c ar, and maybe nearer 2k for the newer one.

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The 4x4 (in fact any 4x4) always attracts a premium and holds its value better.


Question you have to ask is, do you want something slower, that costs more to tax and uses for fuel because it may be useful 3 days every 5 years?


Buy a 2wd and some winter wheels...........


Other opinions should follow.

It depends where you look as well.

There's a well known dealer in Chesterfield, that in my opinion has been over valuing them by quite a bit for years.

Again, demand will play a part too.
It's well worth seeking certain cars "out of season", like a 4x4 in summer and a ragtop in winter.

Also it's worth remembering what most cars are advertised at, isn't what they are worth. Don't get emotional over a car and bargain hard.
As those that have tried it, it ain't that easy to sell a used car, so go in with your size tens on.

Agree with AB100 here. I was running an excellent Jeep, because we live every winter in mid Wales and regularly get snow. I also visit remote farms. The times I've actually needed four wheel drive I can count on one hand over the last five years. One time, we had to dig ourselves out of a rising river I stupidly tried to cross - but no car could have helped there.

So I now use a two wheel drive Panda Multijet with big nobbly tyres and it has not let me down so far. It is really amazing in mud and goo. Far cheaper to buy, run and maintain that Fiats brilliant 4x4 Panda. Used 4x4 Panda's can have very expensive hidden trouble. Be careful when you buy.

Goudrons said:

Also it's worth remembering what most cars are advertised at, isn't what they are worth. Don't get emotional over a car and bargain hard.
As those that have tried it, it ain't that easy to sell a used car, so go in with your size tens on.

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That.

Parkers guide price for a 2006 1.2 4x4 in good condition sold privately is just £1320, and £2625 for the equivalent 2010 car.

At the prices many private sellers advertise on Autotrader, the only responses they're going to get are from resellers asking for money to promote the car elsewhere. £5k for a six year old Panda that was probably bought new for less than twice that is just taking the proverbial.

I went with a 4x4, and am happy I did so. On monday I'll go test drive a 2006 4x4 multijet (with pan(d)orama roof!) to replace the 2005 4x4 petrol I have today.

I find the 4 wheel drive helpful enough to be worth it, but I live in Sweden with icy winters and have summers to drive on unpaved roads. The 4x4 won't be the right choice for everyone!

As for very expensive hidden problems, I don't know, My current Panda 4x4 had a bad propshaft center bearing but that cost < 100 GBP all in all to replace and changing the oil in the rear diff was something I could do myself. I don't know what would be a bigger risk in the 4x4 second hand compared to the 2-wheel drive?

I agree, a normal 2 wheel drive with winter tyres (even cheap ones) is very sure footed.
I ran our old 2007 Active on them all year long and it was great all winter and the 2 minutes of summer!

I went for the later 4x4 TA because it killed a lot of birds with one stone for me.

I live and commute in Central London, it's easy to park and maneuver compered to most other 4x4's, also you sit a bit higher up so get a better view of the road than a normal Panda.

But it's also out in the sticks every weekend as I compete on an off road motorcycle.
Getting in and out of farms with muddy fields and farm tracks with it dragging a small trailer is fun and it really comes into it's own.
I'm often the first away home as most vans, cars and heavier 4x4's bog down and have to wait for the tractor.

It's not a Chelsea tractor, so I don't get spat at and cursed like I did in my Discovery and it's not seen as anything too threatening or flash, but looks kind of Tonka-ish, it just fits and looks right everywhere it goes.

It handles all the street calming much better than our other two fwd Pandas, and there's a feckin' lot of those humps and bumps around here and some are massive, infact there's only two roads within three miles that haven't speed humps!
If I didn't really need the 4x4 system so often, a Trekking would certainly have been a good choice.

It's better on fuel and road tax than a lot of normal cars and nearly all other 4x4's and it's emissions are low.
My tax is up at the end of the month and for a laugh I thought I'd spread the payments monthly for £2.63!

The only slight drawbacks are first gear is very short on it and second not low enough to pull away in without flogging the clutch, so it can be a bit weary in heavy traffic (but it's not as slow as the Climbing), but you adjust.

It's not as refined as my lads Panda Pop or SHMBO's Panda Lounge on the motorways, it's not bad, just the others are a little better at it, but that's no problem as we have the others for those trips.

varesecrazy said:

You are in peak season for a 4x4..

Look at the 2wd trekking models for a true comparison..
Charlie

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The 2 wheel drive Trekking is only available post 2012... older (169, 2004-2012) Panda only had 4x4 option in the UK (called Climbing). In the rest of Europe there was a 4x4 Trekking, which was a cut-down spec not sold in UK but was still 4x4.

rendo said:

what is the general feeling of value of a 4x4 panda over the standard 2x4 model.

I'm considering a 4x4 and have seen 2 private sales locally. one is a 2006 for £2.5k and the other is a 2010 for nearer £5k. both have low mileage and are in top condition.

that looks to me like a premium of about £1200-1500 for the 4wd for the older car, and maybe nearer 2k for the newer one.

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Remember that the 4x4 cost a lot more to start with - its the top spec Panda, plus about £1500 when new for the 4x4 technology. They do hold their value - Parkers may mark them down, but the fact that they are listed on Autotrader etc at higher prices, and sell, shows there's a demand.

They are actually quite 'rare' compared to other Panda models. The newer (post 2012) 4x4 has sold better - in part because TopGear rated it 4x4 of the year. This site shows how many were registered each year from 2005: https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/fiat_panda_4x4#!newreg - there were only 400 or so 4x4s registered in 2006. Compare that to around 4000 Panda Dynamics registered in the UK in the same period... (https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/fiat_panda_dynamic#!newreg ) you see, 4x4 is very scarce, and scarce = more valuable.

And yes, that demand is higher now and less in August.