Technical rear end collapse

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Technical rear end collapse

All models (petrol and diesel) have the same axle, apart from 4x4 models. So you will be okay to source one from a 2011-12 car ;)

Thanks for the reply, I have seen a couple of 500 axles on an auction site are these the same as the Panda?
 
Will the 500 axle / subframe fit a Panda without modification.

Thanks in advance

Jeremy
 
Will the 500 axle / subframe fit a Panda without modification.

Thanks in advance

Jeremy

Sorry for the delay in response. This is where things become tricky, early models of the fiat 500 do share the same rear axle, however, I believe around 2010 ish all 500's received an upgraded strengthen rear axle as courtesy of Ford. Eper lists many different part numbers for the axle on the 500, I can only assume this is due to different cable routes, bracket designs etc. It would be a case of looking at latter 500 models and seeing if certain bracket designs closely match your current rear axle. Just bear in mind if you did find one suitable, then due to the axle being strengthened, different springs and dampers are needed to match.

Regards,
Adam
 
Panda now back on road :) but drivers faith in car has taken a severe battering!

Still looking to contact Fiat re perforation warranty - even though I've fixed it myself.

Anybody got an email contact for them - have tried their website but it just stalls - message doesn't get sent - yet another nail in the coffin (n)

It would appear that this type of corrosion is widespread on Fiats smaller models - 500, panda, punto - haven't seen any details about other models - but haven't really looked :eek:
 
This is something definitely worth posting. Mine is an '05 MJ with almost 100,000 on the clock and I have noticed that the pans were a bit crusty.It's just had its MOT and there were no advisories so I think I might look at replacing them and having the axle cleaned up next year.

I wonder how many people actually look beneath the shiny paint when they buy a second hand car; not many I suggest, but it's an area we often forget about even after owning a car we bought from new.
 
This is something definitely worth posting. Mine is an '05 MJ with almost 100,000 on the clock and I have noticed that the pans were a bit crusty.It's just had its MOT and there were no advisories so I think I might look at replacing them and having the axle cleaned up next year.

I wonder how many people actually look beneath the shiny paint when they buy a second hand car; not many I suggest, but it's an area we often forget about even after owning a car we bought from new.

Mr Beardy. You must have been slacking off somewhat on your driving recently. I remember we were of a similar mileage not so long ago and now you're trailing behind me with over 105k miles on the clock on Dez. You need to get out a bit more. :D
 
Mr Beardy. You must have been slacking off somewhat on your driving recently. I remember we were of a similar mileage not so long ago and now you're trailing behind me with over 105k miles on the clock on Dez. You need to get out a bit more. :D
A-hem. At this point I'd like to mention the fact that I am actually running two cars, the Panda and a 156 2.0 Veloce Momo called Alfie so my mileage is split between them. Plus Mrs. Beard's Giulietta Multiair, and as she's currently in the Emerald Isle, erm, wherever that is, the dog and I will be trying to put a few miles under its belt.

Note to self: Don't feed the dog before taking her for a ride as canine vomit is a bugger to get out of black fabric upholstery.

What could possibly go wrong?

Actually, must mention that when I first saw the title of this thread, I thought it read "Rear end prolapse" :shakehead:
 
A-hem. At this point I'd like to mention the fact that I am actually running two cars, the Panda and a 156 2.0 Veloce Momo called Alfie so my mileage is split between them. Plus Mrs. Beard's Giulietta Multiair, and as she's currently in the Emerald Isle, erm, wherever that is, the dog and I will be trying to put a few miles under its belt.

Note to self: Don't feed the dog before taking her for a ride as canine vomit is a bugger to get out of black fabric upholstery.

What could possibly go wrong?

Actually, must mention that when I first saw the title of this thread, I thought it read "Rear end prolapse" :shakehead:

Oh dear Mr Beardy - I'll just ignore that last bit!

You have great faith in your fair lady's sense of direction I see. Strangely despite the handicap of being female, I seemingly have no trouble with mine!

And even stranger, early in my ownership of my Panda I was given an Alfa GT as a courtesy car for a week while a minor problem was sorted. Although I started off the week thinking happy days, by the end of the week I had reached the stage of 'I'm bored now, can I have my Panda back?' I did enjoy the Cloverleaf I was given for one day a few years later, but I probably would have preferred to try out a new Panda to see how it compared with mine. You need to embrace the Panda and go drive! Btw if the Alfa is called Alfie, what name did you give your Panda?
 
Oh dear Mr Beardy - I'll just ignore that last bit!

You have great faith in your fair lady's sense of direction I see. Strangely despite the handicap of being female, I seemingly have no trouble with mine!

And even stranger, early in my ownership of my Panda I was given an Alfa GT as a courtesy car for a week while a minor problem was sorted. Although I started off the week thinking happy days, by the end of the week I had reached the stage of 'I'm bored now, can I have my Panda back?' I did enjoy the Cloverleaf I was given for one day a few years later, but I probably would have preferred to try out a new Panda to see how it compared with mine. You need to embrace the Panda and go drive! Btw if the Alfa is called Alfie, what name did you give your Panda?
Actually, Mrs. Beard's directing abilities are of a high order, except when she's driving and trying to navigate herself. A few years ago we drove to near Siena via Rheims and Annecy. There were only two issues:

I queried her directions so often, wrongly, that when we got near Milan I said nothing as we found we were going through the same toll booth four times. On the 3rd and 4th visits the lady in the booth just shook her head and let us through without payment. Eventually I stuck my head above the parapet and suggested a different route. It worked, but only because my attention had been drawn by an illuminated red sign reading "Viberti" on a factory; I knew this was where large articulated type trailers were made and we went that way instead. Result!

The second was a few hours later when as we motored south the words of our Italian hosts was ringing in my ears. "When heading towards Rome, you mustn't miss the turn off for Rome and Grosetto!" Knowing we weren't far from the exit I was dragging along at 50mph behind a 44 tonne truck. Mrs. Beard urged me to get a move on as by the time we got there it would have been time to go home. So I moved out and passed the truck.

Now in the UK, generally speaking, there is a sign for a motorway exit 1 mile beforehand, followed by another half a mile before, then a third at the exit itself. However, not on that Autostrada. As I drew level with the front of the artic's cab, there it was: "Rome & Grosetto". Not in a mile, not in half a mile, but right there. Now. Subito! I swear to this day the sign was mocking me. "Stupido Inglese".

So we carried on, after all, this motorway also showed signs directing us to "Roma". What could possibly go wrong? Now I've never been a Boy Scout, so my orienteering skills are not what they might be. But even I realised that the setting sun was not in the right hand side of the windscreen any more, but in the driver's side window. Realising that before long we would be entering the eternal city, Mrs. Beard saw a sign for Castellini-in-Chianti and we left the autostrada for that town. After all, it wasn't far from where we wanted to be, the engagingly named Poggibonsi.

At last we were heading in the right direction as the sun was in front of us as we drove along a well surfaced, straight and fairly wide road. As the road descended a bit more there was a slight bend to the right, followed by another slight bend to the left, followed by a tighter bend to the right, followed by another tighter bend to the left. The road was narrower, more like a British 'B'-road and there followed a series of ever tightening near hairpin bends.

A song came into my head. What was it? Bloody 'ell, it was "On days like these" by Matt Munroe from "The Italian Job". Any second now we'd round a bend to find a bright yellow bulldozer blocking the road and a number of men in dark suits and even darker sunglasses carrying shotguns. The song was replaced by two words. Ambulancia and Hopidale as a 44 tonne IVECO pulling a tanker trailer rounded a bend on our side of the road, the driver presumably sampling a bottle of the region's finest while rolling a cigarette and reading today's edition of Corriere dello Sport.

After hearing the twin sounds of gravel hitting the wheelarches and overhanging branches hitting the driver's door mirror but, no smashing glass or grinding metal and screams, I thought it might be safe to breathe again. After another 15 minutes we reached a town with bars and ristoranti; and a phone box, which I was somehow able to work.

30 minutes later we reached where we were staying. There were one or two further trials before we got there but, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure the server could stand that much text in one go, so that little episode will have to wait.
 
Mr Beardy - having read your Italian navigation skills, please never miss the turn-off to the docks in Genoa while towing a boat!
If you do, you will end up repeatedly listening to all the loudest car and truck horns in Italy as you negotiate back alleys, one-ways, and fishing nets for miles - and miss the ferry!
Sleeping overnight on the dockside in a heavily loaded car is a never to be repeated experience!
 
Mr Beardy and Sweetsixteen - you're both hilarious BUT I WILL NEVER ASK EITHER OF YOU FOR DIRECTIONS! :ROFLMAO:
 
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