General Would You Buy A Fiat Panda?

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General Would You Buy A Fiat Panda?

Rob Kay

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In the market for another car, our citroen ax has been amazing and probably been around the moon and back. There seems to be some Fiat Pandas with not great mileage at reasonable money, would you buy one or just look at other makes, i'm a bit of a diy car repair guy but don't want to be at every day.
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Rob:)
 
Hi,

I've had a Panda since January 2015 (registered October 2009) and when I bought the car it had 8,000 miles on the clock. It now has 16,000 miles.

Problems -
Headlamps needed adjusting at MOT
The air con fan needed replacing as the compressor bearing failed
Dash cluster required re-wiring as it showed 'dimmed lights' on the dash.
It currently has a small oil leak which I've tried dealing with, but decided to leave.
The electric windows kept sticking and the exhaust mounting is currently leaking.
Oil sump is showing a bit of rust.

Positives -
It's lovely to drive
Easy to get in and out of
Very comfortable
Mechanically sound really - hardly any major faults
Easy to fix and maintain.
Rides and handles pretty well considering its tall/boxy shape
And... I've kept the best until last.
1.1 and 1.2 petrols are non-interference belt cam engines. The 1.3 M'Jet uses a chain.

Personally I'd recommend one. Parts are pretty cheap and it's a simple car to work on.

Matt.
 
Would you buy a Fiat Panda?

Yes, but I'd be careful about which model.

IMO the very best of them is the 60HP Euro 4 1.2 Dynamic Eco (2009-2010 ish). It's a better engine than the 69HP Euro 5 that was introduced in 2011; the 60HP unit is more flexible and actually develops more power below 3500 rpm, plus (unlike the 69HP engine) it's non-interference so won't bite you if the cambelt breaks.

You get everything you really need with this car; remote central locking & aircon are standard, and it's £30 RFL too. This is Fiat at its very best; it's a practical, economical and reliable no-nonsense car.

I've had one since new, now at 5yrs/60k; it's had a set of front brakes and a set of tyres. It's never gone wrong, sails through its MOT every time, and it's still faultless.

55mpg overall in mixed driving and around £100 to insure; motoring doesn't get much cheaper than this.

Just don't pay too much; they could be had new in 2010 for around £6500.
 
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Yes, but I'd be careful about which model.

IMO the very best of them is the 60HP Euro 4 1.2 Dynamic Eco (2009-2010 ish).

I beg to differ - the best is of course the 100HP!

On a more serious note, I think the Panda is a great little car, and I agree, the 1.2 is a lovely engine.
 
... would you buy one...

I did. 5 years ago. Still very happy with it, it makes me smile every day, just sitting there, and more so when I get to drive it. Job car is a new Fiesta, 1.0 100hp. I'd rather drive the 1.2 60hp Panda.

Go for it. Great cars, and if you do have any issues, lots of help available on here.

(The Euro 4 started early 2006)
 
In the market for another car, our citroen ax has been amazing and probably been around the moon and back. There seems to be some Fiat Pandas with not great mileage at reasonable money, would you buy one or just look at other makes, i'm a bit of a diy car repair guy but don't want to be at every day.
Thanks
Rob:)


We bought two: 100hp and Euro 5 Dynamic. That said, you're probably asking the wrong people on this forum.


If you've driven an AX, you clearly like light, small, economical cars and don't give a toss what people think about you and what you drive. You'll be welcome here.
 
I have had mine for just over ten years and 104K miles and yes, I'd definitely buy another.
 
Have driven /owned AX GT ( one standard one ,highly modifed) , AX 1.4 and 1.5 diesel and all Pandas except 1.2 .The Panda is better in practically every respect apart from the SLIGHTLY faster torque/0-60 of GT compared with 100hp .
Panda is far better made and far more reliable .The small petrol AX might return a few more mpg compared with its Italian rivals also I guess.
No comparison in 'sturdiness' .I thought the 100hp was like a BMW 0.5 Series it was so 'solid' ( eg door slam clunk) An AX I had once ,developed a freak dent when someone slammed the passenger door shut and the door lock barrel 'pulled in ' the door skin !!!(Also I believe any bonnets closed firmly with palms of hands would dent .They HAD to be 'dropped' to prevent this .)
I feel a certain limited affection for the old AX but it's at best a 1990s car .Pandas will be around for many a year to come ...
I'd say in an ultimate MPG test the diesel Panada would best it's AX rival but it could be tight !
 
I don't know if your in NI or the republic but having spent last week driving around the ROI I wouldn't have any bones left if I took my 100hp over there, the motorways are fabulous but the 'R' roads and a lot of 'N' roads are in a terrible state........ i'd have a panda 4x4 if I lived there.
 
There are incredibly simple to work on and the FIRE engine has been around since the mid 80's, so there nothing to shock most diyers under the bonnet.

It's also quite a hardy motor and very simple and cheap to service.
A full engine service never cost me much more than £40 or so.( with genuine fiat parts)
Four tyres around £120.
Back Box around £30

Obviously the later cars have things like VVT, extras like Air Con that do complicate a little for the diyer.

I'd perhaps steer clear of the MJ, modern diesels aren't too diy friendly these days, especially common rails which baffle most back street garages as well.
They can also suffer from common, modern diesel problems like turbo wastegates jamming, egr blocking and modern electronic injectors aren't as robust as they should be.

I wouldn't discount the 1.1 Actives.
54hp may not seem much, but it's not lugging around much weight and they are, to me what a little Italian car is all about, small, simple, cheeky, basic, cheap little car that you rag the nuts off and it thanks you for it.

Also, some colours can, after a bit of use and abuse make the car look a bit untidy.
The undercoat is white, so dark colours show up all the chips and nicks.
They do tend to look smarter in the whites, pale yellow and silver for longer.

Another good thing about most of the Actives have plain plastic bumpers, they don't show up all the parking knocks and scraps.

There isn't too much to worry about when testing and viewing.

Check all the dash warning lights work when turning on the ignition.

Check the steering doesn't pull to one side and is smooth.

Back boxes can often look a bit ( or a lot) scabby.

They can sound a bit tappy when cold and oil pressure it low, but it should smooth out as it warms up, (often clean oil sorts this)

The top bushes in the rear shocks can break up and lead to a knock over bumps at the rear, cheap and easy fix.

Check the wear on the front tyres, wishbone bushes can go the same way.

Check under the rear, earlier cars tend to suffer a bit of rust around the rear axle, close to the springs and spring pans, the drain holes in the spring pans get blocked.

Bodies should be pretty rust free though.

Other than that, it's all the usual, used car stuff.
 
Great little puddle-jumper.

I'd buy another when this one breaks.
Has to be diesel for me though, even though they are strangled by EU regs.
 
I like the bit "thrash the bejesus out of it and it thanks you for it", that's exactly what it's about.

The 100HP is fun on smooth roads but you have to learn to live with it on bumpy ones unfortunately.

The way it corners though and its grip are immense.
 
In the market for another car, our citroen ax has been amazing and probably been around the moon and back. There seems to be some Fiat Pandas with not great mileage at reasonable money, would you buy one or just look at other makes, i'm a bit of a diy car repair guy but don't want to be at every day.
Thanks
Rob:)
Simple answer, Yes.
I do so for the last 17 years.
3x 141A, 750, 1000 and 1100.
1x 169, 1242.
1x 319, 875 turbo. :D
 
In the market for another car, our citroen ax has been amazing and probably been around the moon and back. There seems to be some Fiat Pandas with not great mileage at reasonable money, would you buy one or just look at other makes, i'm a bit of a diy car repair guy but don't want to be at every day.
Thanks
Rob:)

Unreservedly yes! Well made, reliable and good to drive. No problems other than fair wear and tear for 50 of its 9oK iles and it still looks and sounds good with no rust whatsoever, Regards Pete
 
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