Just bought a mint silver 2011 1.2 Dynamic to add to the 100hp.


I'd been looking for a 4x4 for years. In the end, logic got in the way:


1. Do I need 4WD? No


2. Would I prefer to pay less for the car? Yes


3. Is it cheaper to tax and better on fuel? Oh yes


4. Is it a bit perkier on performance that the 4WD? Yes.


So, a pleasant little car that handles sweetly, is very impressive on fuel. Cracking.

Like the logic.
We've had a Jap 4x4 for years (live in mid Wales during winter), and the times we've used it in real anger could be counted on my brake-pedal foot.
So - with a degree of reluctance, because it has been an amazing vehicle - I sold it last week.
With winter tyres on my 2-wheel drives, I should survive! Time will tell.

Sweetsixteen said:

Like the logic.
We've had a Jap 4x4 for years (live in mid Wales during winter), and the times we've used it in real anger could be counted on my brake-pedal foot.
So - with a degree of reluctance, because it has been an amazing vehicle - I sold it last week.
With winter tyres on my 2-wheel drives, I should survive! Time will tell.

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Yeah, logic is an efficient mistress. I just need to find a hole to fill the gaps left by not searching ebay/autotrader for the right car!


But a 6800 miles 2011 Panda Dynamic for £4000. Has to be good right?

AB100 said:

But a 6800 miles 2011 Panda Dynamic for £4000. Has to be good right?

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I'd say so.

The 1.2 Mk3 Dynamic Eco has to be one of the best value secondhand cars you can buy.

It could have either the 60HP Euro4 or the 69HP Euro5, depending on when it was built. Perhaps surprisingly, IMO the 60HP is the better car and the one to go for if you have a choice. It's got more torque & power below 3000 rpm, where it matters most, and the cambelt is fail safe by design, unlike the 69HP.

Both are £30 RFL.

jrkitching said:

I'd say so.

The 1.2 Mk3 Dynamic Eco has to be one of the best value secondhand cars you can buy.

It could have either the 60HP Euro4 or the 69HP Euro5, depending on when it was built. Perhaps surprisingly, IMO the 60HP is the better car and the one to go for if you have a choice. It's got more torque & power below 3000 rpm, where it matters most, and the cambelt is fail safe by design, unlike the 69HP.

Both are £30 RFL.

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Alas it's the 69bhp lump. I can live with that though. Perky enough. Has the roof bars and alloys, plus the darker interior. Previous elderly owner had 2 services, one of which included new front disks at 5000 miles and the earlier new plugs at 2800 miles. Crazy.


A short 10 mile burst through the Derbyshire Dales at modest speeds gave an average of 65mpg - staggering. Even with a few big climbs and town driving it's steadied at 54mpg.


Course it needs more stirring and lacks the 1.4 ability to loaf anywhere in 6th and skip several gears. On the other side of the coin, there's no need to close you eyes driving over road humps. So, glad we have both to play with.

AB100 said:

A short 10 mile burst through the Derbyshire Dales at modest speeds gave an average of 65mpg - staggering.

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Yup. Mine, measured the proper way, has averaged 55+mpg over 53,000 miles. Repairs thus far have been one set of tyres at 34k (£200), and discs + pads at 49k (£40).

Insurance is about £105pa; RFL £30.

Motoring just doesn't come much cheaper than this.

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Yup. Mine, measured the proper way, has averaged 55+mpg over 53,000 miles. Repairs thus far have been one set of tyres at 34k (£200), and discs + pads at 49k (£40).

Insurance is about £105pa; RFL £30.

Motoring just doesn't come much cheaper than this.

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that's servicing.. NOT repairs ; - )

varesecrazy said:

that's servicing.. NOT repairs ; - )

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Most Fiat dealerships might not agree with you on that.

I'll bet if you'd bought one of Fiat's all-inclusive servicing plans, tyres, discs & pads wouldn't be included.