Not one bit of this post makes any sense whatsoever but it did cheer me up so thanks for that!..
Technical "DNA" Front Suspension Arms Kit.
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Technical "DNA" Front Suspension Arms Kit.
Not one bit of this post makes any sense whatsoever but it did cheer me up so thanks for that!..
That's "GRAMMAR" love... By the way, your spelling, punctuation and grammar are all atrocious. Your language is somewhat uncalled for and there's not much point in obscenities
- they all get starred out! Ooohh! I wonder if I make the other 4? :chin:
And just because i feel like being pedantic there have only been two factory versions of the Bugatti Veyron so you can't count to three?
Lots of cars come with staggered wheels, but the difference is that they're designed and tested. You also only ever use staggered wheels when the drive wheels would be overwhelmed by the power of the engine. Say a BMW M5 or a Ferrari. Not a bloody mildly warm Panda.
Oh this isn't even luke warm, I just wondered what the disadvantages of dragging around fatter wheels at the back are. How it affects the handling etc. I know the advantages/disadvantages of skinny wheels on the front, drive wheels, but can't get my head around why fatter tyres on the back would be so bad, apart from the fact they do nothing but keep the rear bumper from dragging on the ground. This car is not likely to go fast around corners, in fact it doesn't go fast anywhere so I'm not sure handling will be compromised, just curious.
I know that dragster/hot rod builders used to use larger wheels on the back so that they could have a shorter and stronger rear axle but by using staggered wheels still keep roughly the same width to the car and have more of a 'footprint' at the back for better traction, i can't see that doing the same on a front wheel drive car would cause any problems but there's just no point to it.
It's an unusual idea:
1. It may please someone aesthetically, though - everyone has their own eye for fashion. To some it's indicator lenses, others "fly-eyes" lights and some it's a jumbo beans tin for the exhaust. Someone out there might like a set of 345/35-18 wheels on their Panda. Personally......not for me.
2. It would increase rolling resistance, so reduce fuel economy
3. Depending on width it would affect handling in some way. I suppose the lift-off oversteer where the tail snaps out on a greasy roundabout might improve a tad.
I suppose the general view is, there's little mechanical point in having wider tyres on anything but a rear-drive or dragster funny-car. Nevertheless, if someone wants to have it done and make sure it's technically safe and the car is properly insured - knock yourself out.
I once put a Honda 90 carb on my 50cc mower. The induction raw was awesome......for the 10 seconds the engine remained alive (Honda mower engines have plastic gears inside). Some ideas which sound great just sometimes don't work out.
Basically if you wanted to understeer like a pig at the limit and lose the rear end in the wet it's a gr9 idea mayt.
Excuse my ignorance but why would it lose traction in the wet?
Maybe I should explain why all the questions
I have a classic panda fitted with 165 tyres. My daughter wants a car with lighter steering so I'm going to fit 135 tyres which were standard on the panda. I have two wheels with 135 tyres on and was wondering about fitting them while I get the other wheels refurbed. I don't want to put my daughter in danger so hence the questions. (She is not a fast driver and has never got even close to any limit of grip.)
Not sure about Maxi's calculations, though my concern on the 135 tyres would be their age. I only say this because we had some 90% used Yoko tyres on our Seicento (it does about 200 miles a year these days). They were 7 years old but mint. When I drove them in the wet they were lethal, because the rubber had hardened. Thus, they were dumped and replaced despite the tread depth.
So, if I had 135 tyres I think I'd want them to be new and sticky. Even then, I'd rather have wider/newer ones for improved wet braking and even modest cornering. Plus, it's a decent workout in the old Panda.
Put the old 135 tyres on the FRONT while you refurb and you will be safe and legal. If she knows they are old, skinny tires then she can adjust her driving and get used to them, as well as confirming she is happy with that combo...
A compromise would be decent 155/70x13s as an equivalent upgrade to the 135/80s, the right diameter and not nearly as beefy as 165s... Later 1000 S and CLX classics has 155/65x13s but they had 5-speed boxes. Steering certainly was not heavy either.
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The rear torsen bar looks good. What is the standard setup?
Not sure about the other models but the 100hp uses a special setup. Not so much wishbone as broken bone.
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babbo_umbro
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Makes me hanker after the days when small cars didn't need power assisted steering - they shouldn't need it now - the Panda was not the most responsive car around but at least you could feel what the front wheels were doing.
Just get yourself and old capri, shove some cheap chinese ditch finders on the back and enjoy your trip to casualty....
Because wide tyres on a light car mean sod all grip in the wet.....
