Fiat panda 58 plate, dynamic 1.2, no mods.

Problem - when foot taken off the gas in lower gears 1-3, it bounces. Have to be really careful to take foot off very slowly, or put clutch down. Has been happening for a while now.

I wondered if the fuel inlet was being cut off instantly, rather than a more gradual decrease?

I only have a moderate knowledge of cars, but willing to give it a go with a trusty Haynes manual.

Let me know any suggestions you might have!

What bounces exactly, could possibly be an engine mount or the gearbox mount.

No, don't think so. Its the same thing you get as if you've just run out of petrol pretty much.

vealy666 said:

No, don't think so. Its the same thing you get as if you've just run out of petrol pretty much.

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I get the same thing in my punto dynamic 1.4 16v when you change from 1st to 2nd the revs drop off too fast and its like the engine shuts off for a second

Bottom engine mounting - gearbox to frame -
This can and does cause a very kangeroo like action on gas lift off - just as you describe !!- worth checking for any fault codes just in case though - aslo normal checks of plugs. leads etc.
If you change the mounting, get the 100hp one, it is fractionally firmer, and half the price.
If it is worn, when you replace it, it will be like driving a newer car - the difference is chalk and cheese.

I was thinking maybe egr valve not working properly only had the car a few days not checked it over yet

is it a diesel ?

Petrol vvt I think they have egr

Thanks - will check sensors etc first but bare this in mind. Hopefully something simple. How easy is changing the mounting if it comes to that?<br />
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captainslarty said:

Bottom engine mounting - gearbox to frame - <br />
This can and does cause a very kangeroo like action on gas lift off - just as you describe !!- worth checking for any fault codes just in case though - aslo normal checks of plugs. leads etc.<br />
If you change the mounting, get the 100hp one, it is fractionally firmer, and half the price.<br />
If it is worn, when you replace it, it will be like driving a newer car - the difference is chalk and cheese.

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Jon did it recently, great write up here -
https://www.fiatforum.com/panda/345144-changing-panda-bottom-engine-mount.html

I had mine done by local Fiat dealer - 40 € fitted ! - not getting my hands dirty at that - uk will be far more I suspect - but its only 15 mins work for them - mine is a 1.2 dynamic - as said, use the 100hp mount (even if they say its not the right one - IT IS !!, and its half price !.. the only difference is slightly stiffer rubber - only very slightly at that...
World of difference.

Use 100HP part number 51739522 TELL them that is the part if they disagree..
Price 25€ here - UK £30.14 inc taxes (for part only)

WIll cost you double for the std one..

If you have just aquired the car - if not from a Fiat main dealer - I would suggest you have a full diagnostic check on the car by Fiat.
ALso might as well get them to give you a print off of EFI ecu mileage (real mileage) - and number or rewrites, and ABS Start counter... can tell you a lot about the car

Enjoy

Avaxbox said:

Petrol vvt I think they have egr

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I'm almost certain that a 2008 / 58 won't have VVT

Sorry was talking about my punto starjet I checked it today and lower mounts a bit soft with small cracks wouldn't have thought enough to cause the problem

Avaxbox said:

Sorry was talking about my punto starjet I checked it today and lower mounts a bit soft with small cracks wouldn't have thought enough to cause the problem

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No worries, if you are happy with the mounting after reading the info presented here, then best thing is take it for a full diagnostic check.

Personally, whatever the issue, if the mounting is soft with cracks, I would change it as it makes such a huge difference to comfort and driveability - certainly on the Panda. I have never driven or even been in a punto but I would presume it is the same.

I am going to put one of these in anyway http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161010630983?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Avaxbox said:

I am going to put one of these in anyway http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161010630983?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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Nice one !
Shame they dont make parts for the panda - Fiat says most bushes on the Panda are non removable, but of course - we know they are quite a few are appearing - I would imagine more will come.