General Wanted -pair Diesel brake Callipers, also rear callipers and hubs.

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General Wanted -pair Diesel brake Callipers, also rear callipers and hubs.

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Anyone got a set of brake callipers for a diesel / 100HP ? - the ones for vented discs ?? all the same afaik...
Also would like rear disc conversion - callipers / dust shield / hub etc,
Not bothered about discs / pads unless mint as I would be fitting new.
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Cap.
 
I don't have any of the stuff you want, sorry :p. However, is it really worth changing the rear drums for discs? They can't actually be doing a great deal, beyond their obvious handbrake duties, even in the 100HP.

If I was you, I'd change the front discs to 257mm vented units, stick some good pads on and see what difference that makes before I spent time and money fiddling with the rear brakes.

Or, I could just be bored and ranting haha ;).
 
I don't have any of the stuff you want, sorry :p. However, is it really worth changing the rear drums for discs? They can't actually be doing a great deal, beyond their obvious handbrake duties, even in the 100HP.

If I was you, I'd change the front discs to 257mm vented units, stick some good pads on and see what difference that makes before I spent time and money fiddling with the rear brakes.

Or, I could just be bored and ranting haha ;).

lol, naw, its me thats bored, dont forget, I retired at 47... :rolleyes: I just enjoy messing .. I want to sort things out ready for the 1400 conversion - also looking at possibly adding a turbo at a later stage.. but for now, the 1400 8V (far better for turbo conversion later ;) ) ... if you could see the roads we have here, it is like the monte carlo rally - the sort of roads Top Gear go across Europe for - you would absolutely have a hoot in the HP Saucer !! .. we are going on a road trip on Sat and Sun this week looking at houses, both are roads from heaven for a 'driver' .. I like disks as well, no buggering about with drums...
You have to let the old guys occupy their time Matt .... :p
 
The rear drums do a bit more than you suggest. Having had a delamination of the rear shoe on mine, I can confirm that there's little braking effort under those circumstances!
 
Obviously not! I called my Panda Dez! Lol. But at least my reg plate matches his name. B)
 
Maybe maybe not!

My order for my car included instruction to keep me a Dez plate, lol. Attention to detail or what? :ROFLMAO:
 
The rear drums do a bit more than you suggest. Having had a delamination of the rear shoe on mine, I can confirm that there's little braking effort under those circumstances!
I shall accept your very unfortunate expert knowledge on the matter ;)! To be fair, something makes the 100HP stop like it's hit a wall when you need it to, I guess it's a combination of all-round discs and low weight. I believe the front brakes were originally designed to do front braking on the bigger, heavier Punto.
 
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I'd try finding Puntoparts.
Mastercilinder might be different too.

gr J

good point, will check on eper ! ....
ps, have you ever seen how those brit rhd pandas operate the brake master cyclinder from the pedal YIKES !! :eek: ;)
A long linkage bar going from right to left (brake servo and cylinder remain on the correct side (Left :)) and this convoluted linkage goes across.
it has a couple of 'Jesus Christ' pins in it too.. as in what you say if one should fail :D

:eek::devil:
 
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I shall accept your very unfortunate expert knowledge on the matter ;)! To be fair, something makes the 100HP stop like it's hit a wall when you need it to, I guess it's a combination of all-round discs and low weight. I believe the front brakes were originally designed to do front braking on the bigger, heavier Punto.

There shouldn't be any difference in the braking ability (force and action) between a standard panda and a panda with vented discs on, the vents only serve one purpose, to reduce or eliminate fading caused by heat build up.
Disks on the rear are more effective than drums, but only slightly, they do not suffer from the same issues as drums though if used heavily - and also the heating part -drums are notoriously bad - even though I would agree the proportional effort to the rear is small.
which punto's - model year / types had same brakes ? - they are a complete mystery to me :confused: - never even sat in one....:eek:
 
Thank Napoleon for LHD:D I'm pretty pleased with the clutchcable too. Gives one so much more feel compared to hydraulics.

I still think you should've bought a 100 HP though:p

gr J

Good god no :D - I value my back too much..... also dont want alloys -prefer steel - and a sauce bottle would cost a fortune here -I dont even know if any were ever brought in ? - they would NOT be good on MOST of the small town roads as they are cobbled for 10's of miles - as soon as you get out of the cities and off the motorways, you are on steets that would KILL the 100 HP.. :rolleyes: - edit (apart from the old main roads up and down and across the country - they are the ones like the monte carlo rally and smooth tarmac - mostly - the odd hole the size of Cheshire to avoid though :) )
Can get better suspension with a set of diesel springs and an oxy torch to lower them :devil: - used to do this years ago.. a good set of gas shocks and turret the rears, camber bolts for the front struts, and see what adjustment we can get from the top plate in the fore and aft for camber... -
(Actually I would probably get Rossendale Road Springs to make me a set to order - have dealt with them for years!- superb company)
Also wouldn't want the rest of the stuff on the 100hp, not to my liking,, the plain vanilla is much nicer. (AND FAR FAR CHEAPER!).. also the 8V 1.4 is a much better unit to turbo than the 16V - by a long way.. but also a straight swap for the 1.2 in non turbo form, just use same ecu as 1.2 - no alterations...:D

edit, yes - re the LHD - AND the PROPER clutch lol.. I couldnt sleep at night with the thought of that little THIN bit of steel linking the brake pedal by 50 different parts to the brake servo / master cyclinder... ;) - also some previous botcher (sorry OWNER) :) - might have put a bit of bent nail in one of the link pins... lol
 
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There shouldn't be any difference in the braking ability (force and action) between a standard panda and a panda with vented discs on, the vents only serve one purpose, to reduce or eliminate fading caused by heat build up.
Disks on the rear are more effective than drums, but only slightly, they do not suffer from the same issues as drums though if used heavily - and also the heating part -drums are notoriously bad - even though I would agree the proportional effort to the rear is small.
which punto's - model year / types had same brakes ? - they are a complete mystery to me :confused: - never even sat in one....:eek:
The 100HP's discs are bigger as well, the front discs are 257mm instead of 240mm and the rear discs are 240mm, the same units as the front discs on a standard Panda, I believe. I was pretty unclear though, I didn't mean venting would improve absolute braking power :).
 
The 100HP's discs are bigger as well, the front discs are 257mm instead of 240mm and the rear discs are 240mm, the same units as the front discs on a standard Panda, I believe. I was pretty unclear though, I didn't mean venting would improve absolute braking power :).

Very interesting Matt, I didn't realise the Saucer was using bigger discs !
Tnx for that . 240 will be plenty, the brakes are superb now. Definitely sticking to steel rims though - might go to 14 but 13 is OK.
More chance of testing callipers off a four by four than a 100.. Otherwise will have to adapt some others. Haven't located a breakers here yet.....:)
 
Very interesting Matt, I didn't realise the Saucer was using bigger discs !
Tnx for that . 240 will be plenty, the brakes are superb now. Definitely sticking to steel rims though - might go to 14 but 13 is OK.
More chance of testing callipers off a four by four than a 100.. Otherwise will have to adapt some others. Haven't located a breakers here yet.....:)
Yeah it is, they're off some kind of Punto (not confident on which one, Grande 1.4 possibly).

The only vented discs ever fitted to a Panda were the 257mm ones, I think all the 240mm discs, whether used front or rear, are the same solid units.

I assume Portugal has more 4x4s than 100HPs then? You rarely ever see either here in the UK, to be honest. The Cross has the same brake set up as the 4x4 and 100HP too, I believe. However, that's even rarer again!

I'd stick with 13s, unless you were planning on buying 4 new tyres anyway.
 
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