Off Topic Why hasn't my 100hp Sold?

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Off Topic Why hasn't my 100hp Sold?

Are you for real? :bang:

The guy is clearly an enthusiast. It's a rare(ish) car. It's not 1998 and he's not restricted to 150 characters in Auto Trader magazine.

I sold my Clio 197 F1 last month. I listed almost everything I knew about the car and my advert was over an A4 page long. I sold the car to another enthusiast in less than a week at a decent price despite there having been lots of other comparable cars up that didn't appear to be enthusiast owned or had **** adverts.

If people can't be arsed to read 2-3 minutes about a car they are likely to be owning for 2-3 years then they're probably not a serious buyer. Also, if the owner can't be arsed to write a proper review then it says to me they probably couldn't be arsed to look after their car properly.

The difference between your car and the panda is yours was a limited edition performance car and this is just about a standard 100hp - i would expect a bit of a write-up for yours, if you did an advert like what i suggested for yours i would think exactly the same as you

You have a lot more smaller market you are aiming for and are not appealing to the masses which the panda is more aimed at and you needed an advert to stand out from the rest, you would probably end up (and did) with a fellow specialist turning up who knew what they were looking at, not every tom, dick and harry that could turn up to look at the panda

The car you had also had its own dedicated forum just for that car, people were there for that car, people joined up to buy that car - the panda doesnt - it is just a sub section on a wider fiat forum, not everyone here wants or is here for the 100hp, its no suprise to me an enthusiast bought your car but it would be no suprise to me either to see joe bloggs who never heard of fiat forum buy the panda

All i will say is the car has been up for sale for x amount of weeks and the owner wants it sold to get something else, the advert is obviously not working in its current guise and maybe its one of the reasons people are not geting in touch and maybe it takes a drastic change to get people interested

But if it doesnt sell and I was the owner id certainly consider ebay with a reserve auction or even PX/sell to a dealers
 
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No not at all

I would like to add as well, that sometimes, its nice to educate a person about the vehicle so an advert a bit more basic lacking an info can do that

Educating a person face to face without being patronising, can show to a potential buyer, your knowledge and passion and love for the vehicle and sometimes it can be the owners (or soon to be ex owners) themselves, rather than the vehicle on offer that can be the clincher to a deal

The next job is to try and get those people down to view, hopefully with the suggestions made from everyone this will happen sooner rather than later
 
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People buying 100hp are generally wanting something specific, as they are spending a bit more than would for a bog standard cheaper panda, a HP has to tick all their boxes... Daft as it sounds I specifically wanted a blue one and bought a blue one 4 weeks ago. Soon enough you will sell it, the right person who wants it will come along.

A bit of feedback on the ad... The next owner would be the fifth owner of the car which is 5 years old, so the question they would ask why so many owners? So I would mention why you are selling it as I cant see this on the ad or else the reader could assume its been troublesome.

The mileage may put some people off, Fiat engines are not renown for being bullet proof so if the cambelt has been changed as part of the service regime, mention it, make it obvious.

I would just also just remove "it’s really a credit to myself and the previous owners." and "I do believe this car is one of the best looked after examples on the internet".... Understanding you are proud of the car however these are your own personal subjective opinions that anybody could say about their own car, you wouldn't say it was terrible :) The point of the advert is to get the person view the car for themselves based on the facts and decide themselves how good it is, not to be told it. Reading this a prospective buyer may feel there's no room for debate in the price and wouldn't want to offend you by making an offer.

Good luck with selling it, hang in there, hopefully buy the time you read this it will have sold.

All the best!
 
Is it on Pistonheads?

I only looked at PH and AT when looking for mine. I would have been interested in yours judging from your ad. (although you would have been too far away from me, maybe move south... ;) )

Not the most flattering pics though not too bad. think you are just a bit unlucky, the price seems good to me, my 2008 24k car cost me £3800 a few months ago (although virtually mint).

I don't agree with the comments about the waffley bits. They are not going to put anyone off. But make sure you bullet summarise point the main details so people don't have to read it all.

Get it on PH.
 
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Rawb, couldn't you have the steering wheel and gear knob sorted out? I would say these two points which is a persons contact point with car is off putting and gives off a 'worn/uncared for vibe' to someone just scanning the price and pictures.
Personally I'd sort these two points, put the standard exhaust back on (mods may put people off) and re-advertise at a slightly higher price but else where with a rewritten and new photographs (people remember photo's more than adds) and try again.
 
Is it on Pistonheads?

I only looked at PH and AT when looking for mine. I would have been interested in yours judging from your ad. (although you would have been too far away from me, maybe move south... ;) )

Not the most flattering pics though not too bad. think you are just a bit unlucky, the price seems good to me, my 2008 24k car cost me £3800 a few months ago (although virtually mint).

I don't agree with the comments about the waffley bits. They are not going to put anyone off. But make sure you bullet summarise point the main details so people don't have to read it all.

Get it on PH.


Oh, and another point. "People already know about the car"

That is a rubbish assumption to make. At this price point people are choosing on factors such as condition and running costs, they are NOT necessarily searching for a specific car, but all kinds of makes and models within a price range, so adding useful information to sell the type of car can indeed be useful for people who are not necesarily going to consult Parkers to get the exact spec or research opinions of the car.

Simply giving the basics will give the impression that the owner is not someone who has cared about the car,.

Oh and you have gone from "3 parking dings" to "There are NO dents on the car."

It can't be both. If there are dings then DON'T say there are NO dents. People will just be annoyed when they arrive to view
 
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Oh, and another point. "People already know about the car"

That is a rubbish assumption to make. At this price point people are choosing on factors such as condition and running costs, they are NOT necessarily searching for a specific car, but all kinds of makes and models within a price range, so adding useful information to sell the type of car can indeed be useful for people who are not necesarily going to consult Parkers to get the exact spec or research opinions of the car.

Simply giving the basics will give the impression that the owner is not someone who has cared about the car,.

Oh and you have gone from "3 parking dings" to "There are NO dents on the car."

It can't be both. If there are dings then DON'T say there are NO dents. People will just be annoyed when they arrive to view

There are no dents on the car, if you can find one then I'll eat my own hat.

At the end of the day, I'm not going to re-trim the gear knob and steering wheel because the leather Fiat have used is of poor quality - the whole idea of me telling it how it is, is to perceive me as being 100% honest, a car with history is better than a car with none.

The car is cheap, the car is cheap because I have to sell it, I have to sell it to free up some cash for other family related problems.

I first put it up for sale because I found a Renaultsport Clio Trophy that I want to buy, after 3 months of the Panda being advertised it hasn't sold - I have given details of all the wear and tear of the 5 year old Panda, I have given extensive proof of the service history and most certainly shown all defects in pictures. As far as I can tell, that's honest and if people don't want an honest car that is so reliable that im actually questioning if it's actually a Fiat then that's there problem :(

The reason I haven't put the standard exhaust back on already is because I quite enjoy pops and bangs without it on. :eek: Im not bored of driving the Panda and I don't think I ever will get tired of driving it.

Im forced to sell so that's why im trying to sell it.

Sorry for a bit of a rant, just in a crap mood. :mad:
 
Sorry for a bit of a rant, just in a crap mood. :mad:

Sometimes it helps to let off a bit of steam.

You've described the car honestly & your price is reasonable. The reason it's not selling is most likely down to there not being many folks with cash in hand to buy stuff with just now.

The good news is there aren't many decent, fairly priced cars either and although there aren't a lot of cash buyers, you only need to find one.

All the rest will lose out 'cos when your car is gone, it's gone.

Hang on in there, keep you spirits up & most of all, good luck!
 
There are no dents on the car, if you can find one then I'll eat my own hat.

Fair enough, just confusing that YOU were the one that said there were...
I assume you had them removed then. Cool.
 
I said it on the ad, and I'll say it on here too, I really want this car Rawb and if there was anyway I thought I could afford it - even if it meant having 3 cars on the driveway - I'd do it!
Best of luck again.

Look at all your options, id love to sell it to you Eklipze :D

Fair enough, just confusing that YOU were the one that said there were...
I assume you had them removed then. Cool.

I never said there were any dents, why would I say there were dents on the car if there isn't any dents on the car?

For final clarification - There are no dents on the car (y)
 
That's a bargain. If I was after a car I'd bite your hand off :thumbup:

Personally I like a detailed ad from an enthusiast. It says to me that A) The person takes close detail to their car ownership, B) Has the intellect to construct a legible advert.

Can't stand those retarded ads full of 4-5 year old gibberish all in upper case!
 
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Look at all your options, id love to sell it to you Eklipze :D



I never said there were any dents, why would I say there were dents on the car if there isn't any dents on the car?

For final clarification - There are no dents on the car (y)

Whoops I read Rmdinho's post on page two and thought it was your old advert.
Apologies.
 
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