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Old 28-02-2012   #16
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Re: Panda 100HP, turbo or not to turbo?

Being old helps - 210 fully comp as stock, 310 with Rotrex and full mods declared. Could have been a lot worse by the sounds of things...
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Re: Panda 100HP, turbo or not to turbo?

Haha, haven't been on here for ages, funny seeing this thread as the three members cars that are turbo or charged I have been involved with in some way lol.

Alfa115spider Good to hear my old panda is still going strong,
Jusdel30 glad you've got yours complete now
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Andy - good to see you back. A risk of going off topic (well it is an old thread anyway) - what the hell have you done to that Clio to make power like that? More turbo's? Top result whatever you've done....
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Andy - good to see you back. A risk of going off topic (well it is an old thread anyway) - what the hell have you done to that Clio to make power like that? More turbo's? Top result whatever you've done....
Yeah -if all else fails turbo it... As you can imagine its pretty quick..
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cheers andy-thanks for all your help m8-it was invaluable in putting it all together. cars kicking out 150bhp and goes like stink-havent met anything on the road i cant suprise yet! need new tires though-groan thats 400 quid shell out for the summer. motors-might as well just burn the cash instead its quicker!!
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Hmmm,i see,has anyone done it before? just want to know (aswel) if it works well,or if it just ruins it?i want to try keep up (or be faster) than my brother, he has an Abarth 500! haha! plus I want the fun and power of an Abarth without spending too much!
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That's just nuts but I like it. How does it handle all that power..?
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Re: Panda 100HP, turbo or not to turbo?

Sorry, just got distracted by your sig. 197hp out of a Punto 60 engine?!
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Re: Panda 100HP, turbo or not to turbo?

Well a 06 panda engine, with a lot of work, I built the engine for a guy in Denmarks car
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Re: Panda 100HP, turbo or not to turbo?

Personally I wouldnt bother and just buy a faster car. Its not only the expense you have to think about but the reliability issues too. Everything has to be uprated to cope like clutches and drive shafts and all the bushes and bolts inbetween. Far easier and less hassle to buy something thats been designed for the power from the ground up. If you want to beat your friend with the Abarth 500 then buy an Abarth 500. Remember you will be spending a lot of money just to get to his level. If you do get there he will laugh in your face as he can spend that amount of money to tune his Abarth and get to a level you cant reach.
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Re: Panda 100HP, turbo or not to turbo?

The above is understandable, but

The cost of a abarth 500 vs the cost of a 100hp and turbo arrangement would be pretty similar, if not the panda being cheaper, unique and just as reliable if completed correctly.

My example that makes people laugh was with my clio it cost 16k I spent about 3k tuning it, and had a race with a F430 soft top, the owner couldn't believe how quick the clio was and didn't understand why his car wasn't quicker.

Tuning all comes down to how effectively you spend your money.

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Re: Panda 100HP, turbo or not to turbo?

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The above is understandable, but
The cost of a abarth 500 vs the cost of a 100hp and turbo arrangement would be pretty similar, if not the panda being cheaper, unique and just as reliable if completed correctly.
Thanks for posting the youtubes on the turbo conversion on the 100HP - it all looks very neat when it's compared with the JCR S/C arrangement on a F500. With turbocharging the 100HP how does the standard 6 speed gearbox cope with the increased torque or does the clutch go before the gearbox suffers ? Limits on the 6 speed IIRC is around 150Nm whilst on a A500 it's 201Nm. Even at that in Sport mode the A500 is running 206Nm (standard normal mode is 187Nm at a lower 2,500rpm) - that's running around 0.9bar. At 1.2 bar it's producing 230Nm+ which equates to 160bhp. Really can't see the 6 speed gearbox lasting at these bhp figures if you're getting them.
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Re: Panda 100HP, turbo or not to turbo?

Well at low boost my car was running over 190Nm between 2300 and 5000rpm (peak of 196Nm) and the car covered 12k miles with standard clutch (with no slip).

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Re: Panda 100HP, turbo or not to turbo?

A common tactic with turbo centos (1108/1242cc) was to use a stilo 1.4 clutch and flywheel, possibly the same bits as standard on a 100hp?
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