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Panda Electric Power Steering column

Is this a common fault in Panda's..? How many people have had this item fail & how much would a dealer charge for a re-placement.

This steering column is a very common problem for the Fiat Panda built between 2003 - 2011, when the steering column fails it will cause the power steering to fail or become heavy in one or both directions.

http://www.ecutesting.com/fiat_panda...ower_stee.html
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Re: Panda Electric Power Steering column

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Is this a common fault in Panda's..? How many people have had this item fail & how much would a dealer charge for a re-placement.

This steering column is a very common problem for the Fiat Panda built between 2003 - 2011, when the steering column fails it will cause the power steering to fail or become heavy in one or both directions.

http://www.ecutesting.com/fiat_panda...ower_stee.html
Yes, use the search function and you'll see that a few people have had this issue.
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Re: Panda Electric Power Steering column

I'm under warranty (should anything fail) till Feb next year and when that runs out i'll do a 3 year extended warranty.
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Re: Panda Electric Power Steering column

For such a important part of a car to fail on so many cars i would have thought that fiat would recall the panda ,for a refit of a better power steering unit.ive known very low milage cars fail.
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Re: Panda Electric Power Steering column

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Is this a common fault in Panda's..? How many people have had this item fail & how much would a dealer charge for a re-placement.

This steering column is a very common problem for the Fiat Panda built between 2003 - 2011, when the steering column fails it will cause the power steering to fail or become heavy in one or both directions.

http://www.ecutesting.com/fiat_panda...ower_stee.html
Anyone know how much this company charges?
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Re: Panda Electric Power Steering column

I've used BBA Reman who charged 295 to recon. the steering sensor unit. Its not the entire rack that is at fault, or (normally) even the electric steering motor.
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I've used BBA Reman who charged 295 to recon. the steering sensor unit. Its not the entire rack that is at fault, or (normally) even the electric steering motor.
Thanks, I did wonder how often it is the actual motor at fault. I assumed that it would just be a case of unbolting/fitting a new motor any way, that picture makes one think that you have to have it with the rack too???
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Re: Panda Electric Power Steering column

Tbh the overall percentage of failures vs sales is very low. Equally a lot are battery related
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Equally a lot are battery related
How do you mean? If the vehicles battery can turn over/start the engine then surely it will power that steering motor OK???
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How do you mean? If the vehicles battery can turn over/start the engine then surely it will power that steering motor OK???
Amp hours are the capacity, volt the push, it can have the capacity to power but not necessarily the strength to push it, thus cause high demand items such as power steering to bring up failures etc.
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Amp hours are the capacity, volt the push, it can have the capacity to power but not necessarily the strength to push it, thus cause high demand items such as power steering to bring up failures etc.
Ah, I see what you mean now,.....thanks.
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Panda Electric Power Steering column

Hi,

Yes i have same problem and code is Torque sensor. Do i need to change the power steering column?
Is this the same as steering angle sensor?
I found on Goolgle that you can order a steering angle sensor.
Is this true?

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Re: Panda Electric Power Steering column

Hi There

You need to change the central part of the column that contains the Torque sensor, the sensor has 2 functions both Torque and position sensor combined in 1 unit.
We sell the a reconditioned cental column with new sensors fitted for 200+vat, they
are all guaranteed for 2 years.
You will have to have the column calibrated to your exsisting ECU , most garages would have a scanner capable of doing this.
If you are close enough to come to us we calibrate a column bought from us for free.
Also if you wanted us to fit the column then we charge 50+vat labour.
If you need any more help or advice then please contact me.

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