I've no problem with someone putting them on for a photo, but using them to light the road when it's not foggy is dingbattery in the extreme.
Technical Fitting genuine Panda front fogs??
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Technical Fitting genuine Panda front fogs??
but they are not working as fog lights in that picture on the evo like the bravo they are doubled up as "cornering lights" which to be fair make a hell of a difference on the back roads but useless round town but with them been in the multi funcion menu to turn them on or off i just leave them turned on
Agree. Only ever used mine once for five minutes, purely so oncoming traffic could see me. It didn't help me to see where I was going, could hardly see a thing.
Foglights lighting up the side of the road are essentially useless from the driver's point of view as you look ahead when you drive, not at the sides of the road immediately in front of you.
Obviously the most annoying thing about front fogs is that they blind drivers coming towards you due to the beam pattern. I really wish the police would stop and fine people for having them on when it's not foggy.
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Yes, and you should be looking further ahead rather than directly in front of the car for potholes.
I think it`s indicative of the old Ford Capri syndrome - you know, ***** extensions thinking :devil:
Unless visibility is below 100meters and as such requires fog lamps and you to drive by looking at the side of the road
But how often does that happen?
More often on some roads than others around here. Were surrounded by water on all sides here, leave the island and over a bridge and you'll often get dense thick fog for about half a mile.
Only late last Monday night I genuinely had to use them. But like you say, majority of people once or twice a year.
Unless visibility is below 100meters and as such requires fog lamps and you to drive by looking at the side of the road
But, foglights even in thick fog do nothing to help you see where you are going. Lighting up the road to the side 3 feet in front of the car is just useless. Only thing you can use them for is so others can see you in thick fog as that's what they are designed for.
As for how often you need them, well about once in a blue moon if we are being realistic about only using them in extreme circumstancees. So, in summary not worth having them. I used them once on the 100hp and never used them at all on my BMW. My new car doesn't have them, I'm glad to say.
So when visability is 0 being able to see the side of the road is pointless then
I admit they're not something I'd ever pay extra for, but on the cars they've come with I do use them on the odd occassion they're required and they do help.
Using them with headlights off stops a lot of light bounce back in fog
Using them with headlights off stops a lot of light bounce back in fog
I always thought that if the fog was extremely dense, sidelights plus foglights resulted in less reflection?
The only time I've found fogs to be very useful is in heavy falling snow. Dipped headlights simply bang the light back into your face and can make things seem very weird, what with all the 'movement' ahead, but underbumper fogs light up the road beneath the snow and seems to help enourmously. Well they do me!
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Yes but they're blinding for the oncoming traffic.........
Exactly what I said. Lol. Headlights off Ie sidelights and fogs. My wording was bad.
So when visability is 0 being able to see the side of the road is pointless then
I admit they're not something I'd ever pay extra for, but on the cars they've come with I do use them on the odd occassion they're required and they do help.
Using them with headlights off stops a lot of light bounce back in fog
If visibility is zero, putting on foglights won't help.
Better off to park it up somewhere. But, I do take your point as I did in my 2.5 years of 100hp ownership use the foglights for 5 minutes. But, the problem is people think they look cool to drive around with them on when it isn't foggy. For example if it's raining, if it's dark, if it's winter, that's what annoys me more than anything. It's not cool and it's not clever.
I totally agree with you TDQ about people using them when not needed. I personally think they should in factory be wired in so front and rear fogs come on together with one switch and one switch only. All or nothing, because people won't be going around with rears on IMO.
Although that equally annoys me, follow a car in a bit if haze and they put rear fog on an leave it on. Dazzling the hell out of you or anyone else following although I often find the main beam in their rear view mirror soon reminds them what it's like to be dazzled.
Although that equally annoys me, follow a car in a bit if haze and they put rear fog on an leave it on. Dazzling the hell out of you or anyone else following
although I often find the main beam in their rear view mirror soon reminds them what it's like to be dazzled.
They're factory plastic welded to the bumper I believe, but should be easy to pop out.
oncoming traffic is more likely been snow blinded by their own incompetence not using appropriate lighting (where availible) Heavy falling snow is still classed as seriously reduced visibility
Im very rairly blinded by people using OEM factory fit fogs it was the old after market jobbies which were poorly aligned that got me (and there is nothing in the MOT to check for alignment of them) :bang: Fogs have a sharp top cut off..
Think whether or not you use them a lot depends on your location I'm fairly rural and on a tidal river we get a lot of fog through autumn winter and spring...
