Technical panda - engine cut-out problem (getting desparate)

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Technical panda - engine cut-out problem (getting desparate)

Dear Sirs
I have the same problem on starting the car runs for a few seconnds then cuts out and I have a strong smel of unburnt feul and white smoke what s the problem
Kind Regards Joe
 
I had a similar problem of the panda (2010 model) cutting out, particularly when going over bumps and costly work was done - basically the same work as other forum users had experienced- it was only after facing the garage with the comments of the other forum users that the possibility of an inherent fault in the model was taken seriously by the franchise. They had previously said this was a problem no one else had reported. I left the car with them one last time and on returning the next day was told they had received a 'flashmail' from Fiat identifying a 'software problem' with Pandas which could cause engines to cut out. This was recitified at their cost and I have had no problem since then (six months have passed) Without the posts from the forum I would not have been taken seriously in claiming an inherent fault. I hope this helps any other owner who encounters this problem. Well done the forum!

Good to hear thanks..roughly WHEN was this update performed..useful to know if there were different versions..

Thanks. Charlie
 
Hi,
Possible cause could be sticky or failed injector. Did you remove the dipstick to see if you can smell fuel. If unburnt fuel can go down the exhaust, it can also possibly travel pass the piston rings and into the sump.

John.
 
For starters I would go back to basics and look for poor and/or corroded connections. Disconnect the battery and then remove all the electronic multi-plugs one by one and give them a spray with some electrical contact cleaner and look for any obvious corrosion. I had a random starting problem on my previous Panda which turned out to be a poor connection from the throttle position potentiometer - cleaning the connector solved it permanently.

Check that all the earth connections are tight and free from corrosion.

Check battery voltage and charging voltage - strange things can happen when the voltage is too low or high.

You don't say if your garage has been able to pull any fault codes. If you are using an independent garage they may not be able to read all the codes and might just be pulling generic (non manufacturer specific) codes. In my experience many independent garages claim their code reader can do anything that the dealer level diagnostics can do but this isn't usually the case and it can be more cost effective to get the main dealer to investigate in the long run.

However, if you suspect the power steering I believe its possible to interrogate the steering ECU by adapting the pinout of a K-line VAGCOM OBD reader (available fairly cheaply from ebay) and using freely available software (e.g. from FiatECUscan.net) with a laptop.

There are lots of threads about failure of the electric power steering on Pandas and Puntos that you could look at to see if the symptoms are like yours.

Failing that I'd find an independent auto electrician who can perhaps install a datalogger onto the OBD port and see if anything significant shows up in the log just before the problem occurs.

Good luck
DId you get the engine failure message when your car failed to start first time? I'm having this randomly. RPM sensor replaced and crank sensor adjusted which cleared those faults but the engine failure message is a bit depressing. Mind you switch off for give it about 10 minutes and restart and its off ! car runs fine with or without message :)
 
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